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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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additionally july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying beast has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our difference differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year 1985

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you're listening to fade to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening fade to black

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bespoke radio

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how you doing today is wednesday january

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let's do this man

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere a total

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but it is beautiful in here

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it certainly is

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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this is fade to black for kj cr the game

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changer and annex networks i'm your host

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how you doing

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because we have very special guest

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giorgio sucralose is here

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going to be talking about an amazing

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number tonight ancient aliens

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season 18.

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tomorrow night is another fader night

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with open lines all night long get ready

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next three hours i could have called

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giorgio and said let's do this next week

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do tonight that's what's going on lots

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an unknown space object is beaming out

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of energy and it's unlike anything

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of the story it's pretty exciting

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frogs can regrow amputated limbs after

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let's regrow some teeth

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a quick twist okay now check this out

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you know how uh you can jump up and down

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you jump up and down busy right right

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a quick twist and a shake

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i'm not making this up that's a press

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rural areas all of this according to the

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reports suggest that this renewed push

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comes amid concerns from china over an

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international rush for frequencies that

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allow data to flow from earth to space

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any moves china makes in space

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what uses there might be for a global

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of thirteen thousand earth-facing

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an out of control spacex rocket is on a

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collision course with the moon

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lunar impact that derelict rocket is

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march

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9 spacecraft have been launched from

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florida in february of 2015.

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it formed the second stage of spacex's

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mission to send up the national oceanic

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atmospheric administration's

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deep space climate observatory satellite

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now

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four metric tons of space junk

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will smash into the far side of the moon

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near its equator at a velocity of about

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two and a half kilometers

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per second

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the collision

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could take place

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as early as march 4th

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that's a big impact

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that's a big

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at speed

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yeah that's crazy i wonder if we're

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going to be able to see anything from

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here you know

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i have uh do you remember

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a few years ago

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uh i had mentioned on the air that i had

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this weird

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recurring vision

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not like a daytime thing that i was

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going through sometimes at night but i

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was mainly doing this and i would see

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the moon

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during the day and i would look up and i

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thought to myself

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what if i just looked up and there's an

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explosion on the moon you know some kind

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of impact an asteroid

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comet whatever just some kind of

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and

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i had this a lot

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i talked about it on the air now think

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about what's going on now

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would we be able to see anything

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yeah gonna get my telescope ready let's

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get this show cracking

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happy birthday to today guitarist derek

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holt

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of the climax blues band

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is 73. remember that song couldn't get

332
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it right i think a lot of people thought

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the climax blues band

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was

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they sounded like an american man in the

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name right the climax they were from the

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united kingdom

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they were they were great cinderella's

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tom kiefer today

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is 60.

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our dead guy's birthday today is

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eddie van halen 1955 to 2020 died at the

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age of 64. eddie was

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without question

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the most influential guitarist in

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history

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upon its release in 1978 the band's

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album van halen reached number 19 on the

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billboard pop music charts becoming one

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of rock's commercially successful debuts

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by the early 1980s van halen was one of

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the most successful rock acts of all

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time the band won the 1992 grammy award

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for best hard rock performance

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with vocals for the album for unlawful

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carnal knowledge in 2019 the band ranked

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20th on the riaa list of the

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best-selling artists with 56 million

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album sales in the united states and 100

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million worldwide van halen charted 13

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number one hits on billboard's

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mainstream rock chart

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eddie died at st john's health center

364
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right here in santa monica california on

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october 6th of 2020

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at the age of 65 surrounded by his wife

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janie

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sun wolfgang

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ex-wife valerie bertinelli and his

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brother alex happy birthday eddie

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on this day in history 1926

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john logie baird

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demonstrates

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tv

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1926 the first public demonstration of a

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true television system all of this

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happened in london and he called it

378
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the televisor

379
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on this day in history fader fact

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here you go

381
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:06,000
i got i got to do a book i got to do a

382
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book of fader facts

383
00:21:12,149 --> 00:21:09,840
it's kind of plagiarism though because

384
00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:12,159
i'm not creating the facts i'm just

385
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chasing them down

386
00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:16,320
so it's kind of plagiarism and what do

387
00:21:22,230 --> 00:21:19,280
you do do you give credit uh you know to

388
00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:22,240
1500 facts i don't know but i should do

389
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:23,440
a book

390
00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:24,880
maybe that's what i should do it's just

391
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like uh give the book away for free

392
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maybe donate the

393
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profits to charity

394
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right

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yeah

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fact

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involves

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operation

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alaska

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evacuate the entire finnish population

401
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out of finland of 3.8 million people

402
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to

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alaska

404
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and that

405
00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:05,760
is your fader fact what was the plan for

406
00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:06,640
finland

407
00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:09,520
[Laughter]

408
00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:12,080
think about that operational alaska

409
00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:14,480
tonight very special guest

410
00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:16,400
giorgio sucloses with us we're going to

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be talking about ancient aliens season

412
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:19,520
18

413
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tomorrow night's another fader night

414
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:23,200
with open lines all night long now it's

415
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:25,360
time for me to hit this

416
00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:31,830
yeah

417
00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:33,919
what you got here cass what is that oh

418
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,679
yeah

419
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:37,280
there it is

420
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:39,440
man caz is quick

421
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:42,000
cass is looking for a promotion

422
00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:43,919
she wants a promotion

423
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,679
third stone you guys are the best man

424
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:47,679
look at the eddie stuff betty joe thank

425
00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:49,039
you for that

426
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:51,280
ken priest see this is why ken's a

427
00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:53,520
troublemaker out of everything he could

428
00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:55,520
oppose for eddie van halen right what

429
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:02,870
something that i that i actually have

430
00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:04,880
there you go the jump video

431
00:23:08,669 --> 00:23:06,960
these are great the frankenstrat all

432
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:08,679
right rivermoon

433
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:10,320
rivermoonwellness.com fade to black

434
00:23:13,230 --> 00:23:12,000
blend best coffee in the world go get

435
00:23:14,909 --> 00:23:13,240
you some links are over at

436
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:14,919
jimmychurchradio.com

437
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:16,559
rivermoonwellness.com you know to do

438
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:20,480
promo code f2b blend all right

439
00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:23,280
that's f the number two

440
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:24,320
blend

441
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:31,200
you do

442
00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:33,120
all right

443
00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:34,640
so

444
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:38,159
it was the summer of 1978 and i was in

445
00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:41,520
summer school in panama

446
00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:44,799
because i had failed algebra

447
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:46,320
that's right i was stuck in summer

448
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:48,640
school and i had to take it and pass it

449
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:52,000
to move on to my sophomore year

450
00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:54,000
this really happened

451
00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:56,000
algebra sucked

452
00:24:05,909 --> 00:23:59,430
as

453
00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:05,919
summer that year

454
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:09,520
it was not

455
00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:12,640
in that class in that algebra class

456
00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:16,240
i had met john winklowski

457
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:17,679
that's right

458
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:20,640
who's no longer with us by the way but

459
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:23,679
john played bass he had a rickenbacker

460
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,840
and uh that's right

461
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:28,000
ninth grade dude had a rickenbacker he

462
00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:29,760
had it going on anyway each day after

463
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:31,679
class each day after that algebra class

464
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:35,039
in summer school which ended around noon

465
00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:37,200
john and i would go over to roddy

466
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:38,880
underhill's house

467
00:24:42,789 --> 00:24:41,760
roddy was the guitar god of balboa high

468
00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:42,799
school

469
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:45,039
and uh we would go to his house and he

470
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,039
would sleep in till noon

471
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:51,360
when john and i showed up for lunch i'm

472
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:52,960
not kidding i thought that that was so

473
00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:55,120
cool dude slept dude slept like a

474
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:58,080
professional seriously anyway

475
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:00,559
in the back of roddy's house

476
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,440
his parents built him this really cool

477
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:05,520
practice space in the back patio sealed

478
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:07,760
it off sound proof he had everything in

479
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:09,279
there he had drums he had amps he had a

480
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:12,559
pa system and he had a couch

481
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:15,600
roddy had a couch it was awesome

482
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:18,799
he somehow had all of the new cool stuff

483
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:20,960
which was really hard to get back then

484
00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:23,200
in the third world country right it

485
00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:24,880
seemed like he had all the new music he

486
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:27,600
had the new guitars he had a new stereo

487
00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:30,480
his house was like shangri-la it was

488
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,200
awesome so every day

489
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:35,840
roddy would make his way downstairs and

490
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:38,960
eventually grace us with his presence

491
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,200
and he would sit down and talk music

492
00:25:44,789 --> 00:25:43,360
guitars we will play a little

493
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:44,799
he would show me a few things and

494
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:46,480
looking back

495
00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:50,320
dude was only 17 years old

496
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:52,400
i was 14.

497
00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:54,480
but i just looked up to him he really

498
00:26:00,310 --> 00:25:57,600
had it all together he he really did

499
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:00,320
now i lost track of roddy after i left

500
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:03,279
panama a few years later in 1980 and i

501
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:05,039
always wondered what happened to him he

502
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:06,960
was such a great player but then and i'm

503
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:09,840
not making this up two years ago

504
00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:11,840
i get this email straight out of the

505
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:13,039
blue

506
00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:15,039
from roddy

507
00:26:18,390 --> 00:26:16,799
in it he says that he's been listening

508
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:18,400
to the show

509
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:20,480
he's been listening to fade to black and

510
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:23,600
coast to coast seriously and he found

511
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:26,080
out through friends that i was the same

512
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:28,320
guy from high school and he gets

513
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:29,840
straight to the point in this email he

514
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:31,840
says something like i really enjoyed

515
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:34,880
your story about the time slip zeppelin

516
00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:36,480
in chicago

517
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:38,799
i was like holy crap so yeah we

518
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:40,720
exchanged a few emails we've stayed in

519
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:42,320
touch he's living in florida still

520
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:44,960
playing guitar all is good

521
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:47,600
but but back to 1978

522
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:49,840
one day after algebra

523
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:52,559
john and i head over to roddy's and he

524
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:54,480
he comes into the practice room takes

525
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:56,400
out an album puts it on the record

526
00:27:01,990 --> 00:26:58,480
player hands me the cover and he says

527
00:27:05,830 --> 00:27:02,000
check this out i got it yesterday

528
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:05,840
it was van halen's first record

529
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:06,960
cranked it

530
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:09,279
really really loud

531
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:11,919
and all i remember doing for those 35

532
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:13,840
odd minutes was just listening i'm

533
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:16,000
holding the album cover you know i'm

534
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,520
flipping it over

535
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:19,279
i'm reading it i'm looking at the

536
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:21,200
pictures i'm looking at eddie's black

537
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,799
and white strat

538
00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:24,480
and i honestly couldn't believe her

539
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:26,399
understand what i was listening to i

540
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:28,399
mean it was rock and roll

541
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:31,440
but it was from the future

542
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:34,240
at that time the rock music world was

543
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:35,840
about led zeppelin it was about black

544
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:37,919
sabbath ted nugent d purple peter

545
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:41,279
frampton boston santana scorpions

546
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:44,880
leonard skinner zz top

547
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:47,760
van halen was none of these things

548
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:49,919
to even try and describe or explain

549
00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:51,919
their impact at that moment in history

550
00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:53,919
will be futile but

551
00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:56,640
to put it into some kind of focus you've

552
00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:57,919
got elvis

553
00:28:01,750 --> 00:28:00,320
you've got the beatles you've got led

554
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:01,760
zeppelin

555
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:03,679
and you've got van halen

556
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:05,440
in that order

557
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:07,679
now there was no question that there

558
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:09,760
have been many influential artists over

559
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:11,840
the years through to this very day but

560
00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:14,159
when you strip it all away

561
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:17,120
these are the four defining moments when

562
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:19,919
the music changed that's it there's no

563
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,760
arguing this and the history books will

564
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,520
state this as documented fact in the

565
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:25,120
years ahead

566
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:25,919
but

567
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:28,399
here is the crazy part

568
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:32,399
in every country on the planet back then

569
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:35,120
oh man 78 through the 80s

570
00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:38,799
japan russia canada mexico uk bahamas

571
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:40,399
greece whatever

572
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:42,880
friggin guam it doesn't matter all over

573
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:45,600
africa and of course the united states

574
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:48,000
every single band

575
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:50,080
had an eddie van halen

576
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:52,960
everyone without exception

577
00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:56,559
in india sitar players put stripes on

578
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:58,480
this is a fact

579
00:29:02,950 --> 00:28:59,840
well i think it is i'll have to check

580
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:02,960
that out but this phenomenon

581
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:05,760
also reached into every music store

582
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:08,240
around the world nearly overnight a

583
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:10,720
brand new segment was created in the

584
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:14,159
guitar world the humbucker promolo

585
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:15,600
guitar

586
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:19,039
the frenzy that happened was dizzying

587
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:21,600
you had to as a manufacturer you had to

588
00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:24,240
get on board or get lost in the dust new

589
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:26,559
companies were created overnight

590
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:28,799
it it wasn't just about fender or gibson

591
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:29,840
anymore

592
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:33,440
and this trend has never ended

593
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:34,399
today

594
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:37,120
nearly every modern guitar design that

595
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:39,200
isn't a strata or les paul and eddie's

596
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:41,520
guitar was a combination of both

597
00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:45,200
every single one can trace their dna

598
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:47,760
back to eddie's frankenstrat

599
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:49,840
and this is the impact

600
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:52,320
that was eddie van halen

601
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,720
so back to 1978

602
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:56,720
about a month later

603
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:58,559
after i heard van halen won over at

604
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:00,480
roddy's place john and i were back for

605
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:03,120
another hang at his practice pad

606
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:05,200
roddy comes in after waking up he's now

607
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:07,200
pushing things to like 1pm in the

608
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:10,080
afternoon comes in still wearing his pjs

609
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:12,240
and his slippers and he kind of shuffles

610
00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:13,440
in

611
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:20,799
and he plays eruption for me

612
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:23,440
and that was that

613
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:25,200
that was it

614
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:26,720
the summer

615
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:29,600
of 1978

616
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:31,039
when the music

617
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:32,399
and world

618
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:35,600
were changed forever

619
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:37,200
happy birthday

620
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:38,960
eddie van halen

621
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:40,720
i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

622
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:45,200
to black tonight on this very broadcast

623
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:46,960
giorgio soucolos

624
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:50,640
we are now up to season 18 of ancient

625
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:52,480
aliens

626
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:54,640
something else that happened to change

627
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:56,480
the world i'm your host jimmy church

628
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:57,919
this is fade to black and the game

629
00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:00,960
changer and unex networks racehobs

630
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:02,640
i'll be right back after this short

631
00:31:06,389 --> 00:31:05,200
break with giorgio suclose you stay

632
00:31:09,690 --> 00:31:06,399
right there kids

633
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:09,700
i'll be right back

634
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so

635
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636
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:40,960
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637
00:31:44,190 --> 00:31:43,200
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00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:50,870
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721
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:31,200
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is not

723
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724
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:39,359
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725
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:41,359
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726
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:49,190
what's up chris what up this is jimmy

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00:35:59,120 --> 00:35:51,520
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729
00:36:09,390 --> 00:36:08,150
all right welcome back fade to black i

730
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:09,400
am your host jimmy church tonight

731
00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:12,800
georgios is stopping by

732
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:14,000
it's going to be great we're going to be

733
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:16,079
talking about an amazing number tonight

734
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:19,359
ancient aliens season 18

735
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:21,760
absolutely incredible

736
00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:23,599
tomorrow night is another fader night

737
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:26,000
with open lines all night long we'll be

738
00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:27,680
doing that tomorrow night tonight's all

739
00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:30,079
about georgia

740
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:31,040
who

741
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:33,119
for over 20 years has been the director

742
00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:35,119
of eric von danican center for ancient

743
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,359
astronaut research

744
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:39,359
giorgio has started and appeared in the

745
00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:41,200
history channel travel channel national

746
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:43,599
geo channel the sci-fi channel fade to

747
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:45,599
black of course and many other

748
00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:47,599
international television radio programs

749
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:49,359
about the latest discoveries in the

750
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:51,680
ancient astronaut field

751
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:54,000
and i've got links for giorgio uh

752
00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:55,440
throughout social media and over on the

753
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:56,800
website but i just want to get straight

754
00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:58,400
to it and say dude

755
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:01,680
giorgio have you been my man

756
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:04,000
very well how about you jimmy

757
00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:07,119
you know uh it's it it's been too long

758
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:08,400
uh my friend

759
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:12,320
and uh i'm gonna go straight here

760
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:14,960
how have you been keeping yourself busy

761
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:16,960
right

762
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:20,800
you know i am surrounded by books and uh

763
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:23,920
there was a lot of things to catch up on

764
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:26,640
so i've been enjoying myself uh you know

765
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:28,400
the the slower pace

766
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:31,680
and um i've finally been able to

767
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:34,720
to catch up on a whole bunch of reading

768
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:35,520
and

769
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:40,720
more attention to my online store

770
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:42,880
and things like that so

771
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:45,280
you know it's all good it's all good as

772
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:47,200
we're emerging out of this

773
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:50,480
craziness yeah yeah i look forward to i

774
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:52,480
i'm just uh uh

775
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:55,839
i think giorgio uh has accepted my

776
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:57,200
invitation

777
00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:58,480
uh

778
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:00,880
for himself and his better half

779
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:05,119
to go and chase some ufos with me and

780
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,640
and you know what

781
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:08,880
at a serious tencent tip

782
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,920
that would be uh a very extraordinary

783
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:13,680
you know dinner and we'll do all of that

784
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:16,160
stuff but head out into the mojave

785
00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:17,200
desert

786
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:19,119
uh with all the gear and just see what

787
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:21,359
happens are you prepared for something

788
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:22,480
crazy

789
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:24,960
well absolutely and if if i'm not and

790
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:27,359
and invitation accepted and absolutely

791
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:30,160
but here's the thing wasn't it with you

792
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:31,520
where

793
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:34,560
we showed up uh at the contact in the

794
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:37,280
desert for your first live broadcast

795
00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:38,079
where

796
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:40,880
we walked in with jason martell

797
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:44,079
hi jason and with eric hello eric and

798
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:47,760
myself we kind of crashed your first

799
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:51,520
broadcast and then that same evening and

800
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:54,160
i think it was that same evening

801
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:56,560
was that time

802
00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,240
when ed grimsley was giving out his um

803
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:02,079
night vision goggles at the time or you

804
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:04,720
could rent them and whatever and then

805
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:07,680
10 minutes before or after eric had said

806
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:10,000
i'm going to sleep now there's no ufos

807
00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:11,680
for me to see

808
00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:13,040
30 of us

809
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:17,440
saw two or at least one ufo the one was

810
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:19,119
in in the big dipper and then ramona

811
00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:20,960
remember telling me that he saw

812
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:22,560
something else flicker across the

813
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:24,960
horizon but i think that was the same

814
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:28,320
night it was it was crazy town broke out

815
00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:31,040
and uh and here's the thing

816
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:32,400
that particular night that you're

817
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:33,680
talking about

818
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,640
uh

819
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:36,880
we all take selfies

820
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:39,599
my prized selfie

821
00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:42,560
is the one with the three of the four of

822
00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:44,000
us together

823
00:39:49,349 --> 00:39:47,200
and and you and jason that's one thing

824
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:49,359
you guys are young hip and cool

825
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:50,960
eric's face

826
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:55,280
selfie that smile

827
00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:58,640
it uh it is it's it was just a moment in

828
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:59,520
time

829
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:00,880
and uh yeah that's right you guys

830
00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:03,119
crashed it and then everything broke

831
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:05,359
loose and there was two

832
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:07,599
um i want to remind you of this i know

833
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:09,520
that jason is has talked to you about

834
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:12,000
this i think one year you were there

835
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,920
but uh and i'm sure jason is listening

836
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:16,000
right now and you're right hello jason

837
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:17,920
jason comes out and we're at the same

838
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:20,800
spot right where that went down

839
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:25,760
and uh this is a year later and man the

840
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:28,800
craziest stuff right just appearing in

841
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:30,000
the sky

842
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:33,200
and and the crowd yelling and screaming

843
00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:35,520
and when you go through a moment like

844
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:37,599
that it's it's a game changer isn't it

845
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:40,480
when you see it for yourself

846
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,760
it it really is and you know what was

847
00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:45,920
interesting is that uh

848
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:47,839
uh some people thought that you know

849
00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:50,000
that this was my first time that i had

850
00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:51,839
seen a ufo but the thing is that i had

851
00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:55,040
come forward publicly to mention that i

852
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:57,839
had seen something that following day

853
00:41:03,109 --> 00:40:59,760
because

854
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:03,119
ed grimsley in fact i had met him

855
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:06,560
on a previous occasions years before

856
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:09,599
that night at at contact in the desert

857
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,280
when i used to live up in uh san

858
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:13,359
francisco in sausalito

859
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:14,240
and

860
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:16,319
i remember listening to coast to coast

861
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:18,720
and george mentioning uh ed grimsley and

862
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:21,119
when i found out that he pretty much

863
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:23,119
lived you know up the street up in

864
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:26,079
sonoma right i contacted him and i said

865
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:27,599
you know i would like to

866
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:29,920
and he had no idea you know this was

867
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:32,240
before ancient aliens i mean i still i

868
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:34,720
already was publishing legendary times

869
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:36,960
um but so so you know

870
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:38,880
my friend jeff and i we

871
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:40,960
we signed up for a night vision watch

872
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:49,750
seven or eight or six even and

873
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:51,760
no excuse me excuse me excuse me it was

874
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:53,359
in 2003

875
00:41:59,589 --> 00:41:56,880
um in 2002 or 2003 because i had already

876
00:42:02,550 --> 00:41:59,599
moved down to san diego in 2005. right

877
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:02,560
so it was around 2003 or four

878
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,079
and

879
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:06,720
that night there were about four other

880
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,560
people five other people with ed

881
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:10,000
grimsley

882
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:11,359
and

883
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:12,640
that evening

884
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:14,960
after we had watched whatever we had

885
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:17,280
seen up in the sky

886
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:18,880
jeff and i

887
00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:21,119
and he's a family man so it's not like

888
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,119
you know on a saturday night he is kind

889
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,680
of allowed to be out until four in the

890
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:27,520
morning but jeff and i

891
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:30,240
after we were done or we had to you know

892
00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:32,240
give back to the night vision goggles to

893
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:36,079
ed grimsley jeff and i went to a

894
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:40,079
denny's and we sat there until four in

895
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:41,359
the morning

896
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:44,640
discussing or trying to make sense

897
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:46,960
what it is that we saw

898
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:48,079
back

899
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:53,119
was absolutely

900
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:55,920
it melted our brains because

901
00:43:03,109 --> 00:42:59,359
clearly we saw craft

902
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:03,119
far far out there uh you know i mean

903
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:05,280
for all intents and purposes

904
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:08,079
beyond the altitude of airplanes

905
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,880
and

906
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:10,560
regular airliners

907
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:12,079
and

908
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:14,960
one that the entire crew or not the crew

909
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:16,960
but the people that we were with and

910
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:19,520
again there was about six of us in total

911
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:21,680
that we all saw together

912
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:25,599
was this one triangular craft and then a

913
00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:28,240
little flash occurred well it was

914
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:30,319
actually quite bright a bright flash and

915
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:32,480
then a little

916
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:34,240
smaller

917
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:40,800
flew or

918
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:43,760
yeah flew it it didn't go straight it

919
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:45,680
kind of curved around

920
00:43:52,829 --> 00:43:49,680
um and and left that particular bigger

921
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:52,839
craft or bigger object

922
00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:57,440
and i have rarely told this story to to

923
00:44:02,309 --> 00:43:59,680
not many people know this and for many

924
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:02,319
years i actually never talked about it

925
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:05,920
until that second night with ed grimsley

926
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:08,560
and once again with those night vision

927
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:10,880
goggles you actually saw something up in

928
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:11,920
the sky

929
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:14,640
and you know one could argue it's drone

930
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:17,920
technology and whatnot but

931
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:20,319
some of those things that we've seen

932
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:21,599
were

933
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:23,040
huge

934
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:23,920
so

935
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:24,720
uh

936
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:26,720
yeah what do you do well you and i were

937
00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:28,720
talking about this the other day

938
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:29,599
where

939
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,800
um

940
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:32,400
suddenly

941
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:34,400
we become

942
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:37,200
the people that we see telling stories

943
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:40,160
or we hear right we hear the stories

944
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:41,440
and now

945
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:43,599
we become them

946
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:46,560
when we go and share an experience like

947
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:49,040
this was there a reason why you didn't

948
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:50,720
talk about it for a couple of years was

949
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:52,880
it just too fantastic for other people

950
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:54,400
to understand

951
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:59,520
was just the first part is correct yes

952
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:01,040
too fantastic

953
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:02,880
the part about other people not

954
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:04,400
understanding

955
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:06,240
you know that's something that i've made

956
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:08,640
peace a long time ago because i used to

957
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:09,520
you know

958
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:11,920
uh get into arguments with the skeptics

959
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:14,880
and and you know spend times on forums

960
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:17,599
trying to argue and stuff like this i i

961
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:19,920
haven't done that in a very long time

962
00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:21,119
so

963
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:23,839
you know this whole thing you know right

964
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:25,359
now is

965
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:27,359
and by the way and and you and i have

966
00:45:31,589 --> 00:45:29,680
also said this and this is why this is

967
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:31,599
one of the big reasons why you do the

968
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:32,480
show

969
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,839
why you give people a platform because

970
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:37,920
you know

971
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:40,800
who is anyone to say that of all the

972
00:45:44,710 --> 00:45:43,359
abduction stories or all the eyewitness

973
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:44,720
accounts

974
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:45,520
that

975
00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:46,720
all of them

976
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:48,960
are made up and now you have had an

977
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:52,560
experience i've had two experiences

978
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:56,480
and we know very very good and close

979
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:59,040
friends of ours who have experienced

980
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:01,040
stuff

981
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:04,000
are we all are we all delusional are we

982
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:07,280
all making it up get the hell out of

983
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:10,720
here and sit the hell down now have you

984
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:13,599
been uh trying to assess i've been

985
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:16,079
following some of your public comments

986
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,200
um have you been trying to assess uh

987
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:21,839
what is going on right now with not only

988
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:23,680
the media which you and i are part of of

989
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:25,440
course but

990
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:27,040
you have the senate the department of

991
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:29,440
defense and lou elizondo you've done you

992
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,000
know work with um everybody

993
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:34,400
um and and what is happening right now

994
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:37,200
with this discussion about disclosure

995
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:39,119
and something going on in the skies have

996
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:41,599
you been trying to process this

997
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:44,880
yeah and and it's awesome it's fantastic

998
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:47,760
it's sensational it's really incredible

999
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:48,880
that we

1000
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:49,760
are

1001
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:51,680
witnessing

1002
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:54,400
the paradigm shift actually happening i

1003
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:56,240
mean a paradigm shift has been happening

1004
00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:58,079
for a long time anyway

1005
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:00,079
but we've had we've now

1006
00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:03,760
seen it where 15 years ago 12 years ago

1007
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,240
there were no ufo headlines on the front

1008
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:08,720
page of newspapers or the the front

1009
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:11,839
pages of of online platforms

1010
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:12,880
now

1011
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:15,359
not a week goes by

1012
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:17,760
when a new type of

1013
00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:20,559
a commission is formed or a new report

1014
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:23,839
comes out or new investigations are done

1015
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:26,720
and new information comes out that you

1016
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:29,040
know the quote-unquote inner circle

1017
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:30,160
we were all

1018
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:32,720
aware of this and knew about this but

1019
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:33,599
now

1020
00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:36,400
the time has come where these things are

1021
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:38,800
being discussed and so for anyone to say

1022
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:40,720
that what's happened in the past six or

1023
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:43,440
eight months that that was a big nothing

1024
00:47:49,589 --> 00:47:47,200
burger to me is strange because yes

1025
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:49,599
maybe to you and me and the people who

1026
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:51,520
have been

1027
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:54,720
following this and actively you know

1028
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:57,839
closely closely researching this

1029
00:48:02,950 --> 00:47:59,440
of course some of the things that have

1030
00:48:06,349 --> 00:48:02,960
come out recently were not new to us but

1031
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:06,359
the rest of the planet this is

1032
00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:09,520
incredible and like i've always said

1033
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:10,640
that you know

1034
00:48:17,190 --> 00:48:14,400
disclosure is not one event it's not one

1035
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:17,200
press conference in my opinion it's a

1036
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:21,920
process it's a shift in opinion and in

1037
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:24,720
perception and we're right in the middle

1038
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:26,000
of that

1039
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:28,480
and i think that

1040
00:48:33,750 --> 00:48:29,760
all of this

1041
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,760
ultimately leads to this understanding

1042
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:36,079
that you know this has all been

1043
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:38,880
happening slowly so that the whole

1044
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:41,280
planet understands

1045
00:48:44,549 --> 00:48:43,680
it's okay because some people believe it

1046
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:44,559
or not

1047
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:46,480
are still kind of freaked out by this

1048
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:47,520
idea

1049
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:50,000
that we may not be alone in the universe

1050
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:53,440
and not only that but that perhaps

1051
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:56,640
they're here well and ancient aliens has

1052
00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:58,160
certainly helped to change that

1053
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:00,319
perception i mean it's got a huge

1054
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:03,359
footprint out there but i remember

1055
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:04,640
i want to take

1056
00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:05,680
your

1057
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:10,000
a few years maybe five six years but you

1058
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:10,880
and i

1059
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:14,160
we were having dinner and you had said

1060
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:18,480
to me then you go jimmy um i'm not a ufo

1061
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:19,760
researcher

1062
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:22,480
you know more than i do about this i'm

1063
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:26,400
into ancient history i'm not a ufo guy

1064
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:27,359
and

1065
00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:31,040
do you feel different about that now do

1066
00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:31,680
you

1067
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:41,599
would bring that up because i i read a

1068
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:44,079
an article that i wrote 15 years ago in

1069
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:46,319
which i argued that there's a difference

1070
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:47,440
between

1071
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:50,640
modern ufology and and ufo research

1072
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:53,040
and the ancient astronauts theory and

1073
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:55,760
that's an article i wrote 15 years ago

1074
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:57,359
and today

1075
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:00,240
if i could have a talk of my 15

1076
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:03,440
uh you know of me 15 years ago then i

1077
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:05,920
would say you know

1078
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:08,480
slow down a moment here because

1079
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:10,079
you know

1080
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:11,680
what i'm saying right now is that i

1081
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:14,559
absolutely have i changed my opinion

1082
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:16,880
where back in the day i would say i

1083
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:18,720
would argue that you know i only would

1084
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:21,040
like to talk about the ancient astronaut

1085
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,720
theory with et visitation in the ancient

1086
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:26,400
past well

1087
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,800
today with everything that's going on

1088
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:30,480
and especially what's happened over the

1089
00:50:35,589 --> 00:50:33,440
past 15 years the one

1090
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,599
big change in my mind

1091
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:37,280
has been where

1092
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:40,000
you can go at old old lectures of mine

1093
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,440
from 20 25 years ago in which i say you

1094
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:45,200
know the aliens left and then you know

1095
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:46,559
they were ancient astronauts and then

1096
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:49,119
the modern ufo phenomenon began

1097
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:53,119
with you know roswell in 1947 or whatnot

1098
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:54,559
well

1099
00:51:02,710 --> 00:50:58,559
my opinion change has been that i think

1100
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:02,720
we have been observed this entire time

1101
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:04,880
and this is why we have

1102
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:06,000
these

1103
00:51:11,589 --> 00:51:08,720
carvings and paintings for example in

1104
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:11,599
the middle ages that depict really

1105
00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:14,960
strange discs in the sky or beams coming

1106
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:15,920
down

1107
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:17,119
you know or

1108
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:19,839
in nuremburg or in basel one of the

1109
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:22,720
broad sheets reported on two different

1110
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:25,680
occasions these giant crosses and

1111
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:28,880
triangles and orbs up in the sky and

1112
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:31,359
arrows flying that they themselves

1113
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:35,440
described as gigantic in size

1114
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:36,720
so

1115
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:37,839
you know

1116
00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:39,760
ancient aliens are going to be honest

1117
00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:42,800
with you has also helped me open my mind

1118
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:46,559
because we are discussing

1119
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:50,240
topics and subjects beyond the classic

1120
00:51:55,349 --> 00:51:53,200
ancient astronaut theory and i think

1121
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:55,359
that is one of the reasons why the show

1122
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:57,839
has become so popular that we have as

1123
00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:00,000
kevin burns used to say

1124
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:03,200
we have broadened the tent and it's

1125
00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:05,040
working because

1126
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:07,520
you know this whole idea that only one

1127
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:09,440
theory is correct and then you are wrong

1128
00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:11,760
and he is right and and she is wrong and

1129
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:14,319
yet i mean no we should all look at

1130
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:16,960
these things from a mutual perspective

1131
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,200
to see if there is an underlying thread

1132
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:23,520
and and the underlying threat of course

1133
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:25,200
is

1134
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:27,760
the extraterrestrial question

1135
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:30,720
when you go and uh and i'm speaking of

1136
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:33,119
you personally and and i want to throw

1137
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:35,599
jason into this and and others childress

1138
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:36,319
and

1139
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:37,599
you know the crew

1140
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,440
but when you uh

1141
00:52:44,230 --> 00:52:41,280
uh and of course eric

1142
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:44,240
uh when you look at those woodcuts right

1143
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:46,640
nuremberg or the renaissance paintings

1144
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:49,359
and you see some of these things or cave

1145
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:51,680
art or sculpt but you look at what is

1146
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:53,200
depicted there

1147
00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:55,599
and then you think about your own siding

1148
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:57,839
with grimsley or the stuff that jason

1149
00:53:01,829 --> 00:53:00,480
and i and you saw and and so

1150
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:01,839
it it

1151
00:53:06,309 --> 00:53:03,599
there's a correlation there there's a

1152
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:06,319
connection do you feel that what they

1153
00:53:10,870 --> 00:53:08,480
were witnessing and what you have seen

1154
00:53:12,829 --> 00:53:10,880
today in the now now could quite

1155
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:12,839
possibly be the exact same

1156
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:15,760
thing well and that and that is kind of

1157
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:18,160
the argument that we're making because

1158
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:20,480
you know when you have ancient

1159
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,319
stories of flying shields or flying orbs

1160
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:26,480
of lights up in the sky

1161
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:28,720
or just lights in general

1162
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:31,040
and and today many ufo sightings that

1163
00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:33,119
happen at night but there's also some

1164
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:35,119
that now happen during the day i mean

1165
00:53:40,069 --> 00:53:37,440
there was just recently this thing

1166
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:40,079
that a passenger from an airliner

1167
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:43,040
uh took or maybe it was the the pilot

1168
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:44,480
but um

1169
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:47,359
it was this fleet this flotilla of of

1170
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:48,400
white

1171
00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:51,599
lights in over the clouds in formation

1172
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:54,079
coming in and out you know turning on

1173
00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:56,640
and off the lights uh in in broad

1174
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:58,960
daylight sensational stuff

1175
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:01,920
so imagine now that you know today we

1176
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:04,960
can say okay this could perhaps be of

1177
00:54:09,750 --> 00:54:07,359
technological origin or it's flying it's

1178
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:09,760
up in the sky there could be some type

1179
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:10,480
of

1180
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:12,640
an explanation for this

1181
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:15,200
and the point of the ancient astronaut

1182
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:16,480
theory is

1183
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:18,640
that we try to look at it from a

1184
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:22,160
perspective where we take into account

1185
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:24,720
what was within the realm of the

1186
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:27,680
technological frame of reference of our

1187
00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:30,640
ancestors right and so if you all of a

1188
00:54:35,349 --> 00:54:32,960
sudden have lights in the sky that are

1189
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:35,359
moving from point a to point b

1190
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:36,240
well

1191
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:39,200
that's something extraordinary

1192
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:40,400
from

1193
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:43,280
them knowing hey the night sky has has

1194
00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:45,839
fixated stars they're there and and you

1195
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:48,240
know they move obviously but they don't

1196
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:51,359
move at that speed that they would from

1197
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:54,799
time to time report in some of those

1198
00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:58,400
either legends or later in the years

1199
00:55:04,789 --> 00:55:01,040
they would write it down in in public

1200
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:04,799
records and so yes absolutely am i

1201
00:55:10,789 --> 00:55:07,920
suggesting that some of the visitations

1202
00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:10,799
that we are witnessing today

1203
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:13,599
perhaps are the same visitors

1204
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:17,200
that we've had 5 000 years ago because

1205
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:20,400
if they are able to travel to close to

1206
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:23,119
the speed of light and whatever you know

1207
00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:25,760
exotic transportation system they may

1208
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:28,000
have i look at it from an earthling

1209
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:29,839
perspective what's possible or

1210
00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:33,200
potentially possible for us so let's say

1211
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:35,680
they can travel close to the speed of

1212
00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:36,559
light

1213
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:38,319
that would mean

1214
00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:42,480
if only five years elapsed on their

1215
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:44,240
spaceship

1216
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:48,000
up to 5 000 years or so can ha can

1217
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:50,799
elapse here on earth depending on of

1218
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:53,680
course what speed they go so this means

1219
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:56,079
that they can only have gone for a jaunt

1220
00:56:01,589 --> 00:55:59,359
of maybe two or three years but on earth

1221
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:01,599
hundreds if not thousands of years have

1222
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:02,400
passed

1223
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:04,559
this is a um

1224
00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:07,760
a a a mathematical equation called the

1225
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:10,319
theory of relativity by einstein called

1226
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:13,440
the twin paradox phenomenon that

1227
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:15,440
explains that

1228
00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:18,319
in a roundabout way

1229
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:21,200
time travel is possible looking from

1230
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:24,160
that perspective because we can leave on

1231
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:26,240
earth with a spaceship that travels

1232
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:28,319
close to the speed of light on the

1233
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:31,119
spaceship two or three years past and on

1234
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:32,720
earth

1235
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:35,119
thousands of years have passed

1236
00:56:40,190 --> 00:56:37,680
so it's an amazing thing and we have

1237
00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:40,200
ancient stories like for example the

1238
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:42,880
wb-44 king's list of the ancient

1239
00:56:47,829 --> 00:56:45,760
sumerians where some of those ruling

1240
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:47,839
times go back

1241
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:51,359
up to a hundred and sixty-two thousand

1242
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:52,240
years

1243
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:56,079
combined it's crazy yes it is it is and

1244
00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:58,400
when you when you start to throw all of

1245
00:57:03,190 --> 00:56:59,920
this together

1246
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:03,200
and you look at what possibly may be

1247
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:05,119
going down right now with our own

1248
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:07,680
government in washington dc

1249
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:09,440
do you think that

1250
00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:11,440
disclosure is something that is a part

1251
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:12,400
of our

1252
00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:16,000
you know future very quickly

1253
00:57:21,270 --> 00:57:18,240
i don't know about very quickly but a

1254
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:21,280
disclosure is definitely on the horizon

1255
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:24,000
right especially of of everything that

1256
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:26,960
is being said because see one thing that

1257
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:29,440
also i i don't understand or i'm having

1258
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:31,839
a hard time grasping where everybody

1259
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:33,839
says that it's a nothing burger and not

1260
00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:35,359
significant

1261
00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:38,720
i mean we all are in in i would hope in

1262
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:41,119
command of the english language and

1263
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:44,480
what that report said is

1264
00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:46,960
we've we have all the explanations and

1265
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:49,119
the one explanation that we are not

1266
00:57:52,630 --> 00:57:51,119
mentioning in this report

1267
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:52,640
is pretty much

1268
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:55,680
the extraterrestrial answer that was the

1269
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:58,640
only thing in the entire report that is

1270
00:58:01,430 --> 00:58:00,319
not listed

1271
00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:01,440
so

1272
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:02,559
i mean

1273
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:04,240
you know if everything is listed and

1274
00:58:08,789 --> 00:58:06,720
then that one part is left out and it's

1275
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:08,799
put in the quote unquote as they call it

1276
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:11,760
the other category right because that is

1277
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:15,440
that last category other that term quote

1278
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:16,720
unquote other

1279
00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:17,760
should be

1280
00:58:24,109 --> 00:58:20,480
exchanged or for intents and purposes

1281
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:24,119
can be exchanged for the term

1282
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:25,680
extraterrestrial

1283
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:28,240
and there you go there is your report

1284
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:29,599
and

1285
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:32,079
if you disagree with this then that's

1286
00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:33,760
that's fine

1287
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:36,079
i don't care

1288
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:37,839
by you i don't mean you jimmy i just

1289
00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:40,079
mean anybody who said that you know oh

1290
00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:42,559
it doesn't say extraterrestrial so that

1291
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:45,040
means it's not extraterrestrial

1292
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:46,240
i mean

1293
00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:49,200
really yeah and do you think that that

1294
00:58:54,789 --> 00:58:52,000
was done by intention you know almost

1295
00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:54,799
like an underwriter an underarm softball

1296
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:58,319
pitch right sure yes test the water see

1297
00:59:01,670 --> 00:58:59,760
how it is

1298
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:01,680
you know and i

1299
00:59:06,069 --> 00:59:03,680
i don't know again you know none of

1300
00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:06,079
these reports are made

1301
00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:07,760
or are

1302
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:09,359
are being released

1303
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:15,910
we've talked about this for years and

1304
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:18,480
the fact now that these things are all

1305
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,040
of a sudden being actually discussed in

1306
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:23,280
public now all of a sudden that is the

1307
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:25,920
conspiracy that's how weird this whole

1308
00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:28,640
thing has become that here here we were

1309
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:29,359
for

1310
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:31,359
20 years or i i started this

1311
00:59:36,309 --> 00:59:34,640
professionally in 1998 since then and

1312
00:59:38,549 --> 00:59:36,319
even years before i was interested in

1313
00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:38,559
this i said you know wouldn't it be cool

1314
00:59:44,789 --> 00:59:42,000
if the world talked about ufos as we are

1315
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:44,799
talking about it today it didn't happen

1316
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:47,520
and now it's happening and there's oh

1317
00:59:51,670 --> 00:59:49,680
you know that's all just you know

1318
00:59:54,789 --> 00:59:51,680
it's a conspiracy too

1319
00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:54,799
i mean how cynical have we become see

1320
00:59:58,710 --> 00:59:57,839
this is what my

1321
01:00:04,069 --> 00:59:58,720
you know

1322
01:00:06,069 --> 01:00:04,079
why have we become

1323
01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:06,079
so cynical

1324
01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:08,240
something good is happening as far as

1325
01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:10,640
the extraterrestrial question and its

1326
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:13,200
potential acceptance

1327
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:15,920
and here we are and by we i don't mean

1328
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:18,000
you and me but there's you know a few

1329
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:20,000
you know there's some crowds out there

1330
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:27,430
they're burying everything they can

1331
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:30,640
and uh it's sort of really become ugly

1332
01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:34,160
and why i mean 10 10 15 years ago

1333
01:00:38,390 --> 01:00:36,160
we we had discussions

1334
01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:38,400
and today it's just like you know one

1335
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:40,640
screaming match after the other and

1336
01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:43,200
artificial outrage and

1337
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:45,440
you know you can you can say the sky is

1338
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:46,319
blue

1339
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:47,359
on a

1340
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:48,240
blue

1341
01:00:56,630 --> 01:00:53,040
and

1342
01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:56,640
people will you know lose their minds

1343
01:01:00,710 --> 01:00:58,319
they will rip you apart right right

1344
01:01:01,910 --> 01:01:00,720
right right and and

1345
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:01,920
i've got to take a break here in about

1346
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:04,000
15 seconds but here is

1347
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:07,280
here is uh the funny thing about this

1348
01:01:11,670 --> 01:01:10,480
in any other year giorgio in any other

1349
01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:11,680
year

1350
01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:15,040
these headlines would be the biggest

1351
01:01:20,309 --> 01:01:17,760
things in the history of the world

1352
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:20,319
but were in the middle of this pandemic

1353
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:22,720
and all these other crazy headlines what

1354
01:01:27,030 --> 01:01:25,440
a convenient time to talk about ufos

1355
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:27,040
right

1356
01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:32,960
guest tonight the one and only giorgio

1357
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:35,280
suculos when we come back we're gonna

1358
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:36,640
pick it up we're gonna start talking

1359
01:01:41,109 --> 01:01:39,440
about ancient alien season 18. it is

1360
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:41,119
here we're in the middle of the season

1361
01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:42,000
now

1362
01:01:45,910 --> 01:01:43,920
it's gonna be a great night giorgio is

1363
01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:45,920
with us i'll disclose a little more

1364
01:01:49,030 --> 01:01:47,839
about giorgio when we come back he made

1365
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:49,040
a request

1366
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:51,119
uh before the show tonight i'll tell you

1367
01:01:54,549 --> 01:01:52,480
all about it when we come back this is

1368
01:02:02,860 --> 01:01:54,559
fade to black i'm your timmy church stay

1369
01:02:13,829 --> 01:02:10,350
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1370
01:02:19,490 --> 01:02:15,990
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1371
01:02:21,029 --> 01:02:19,500
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1372
01:02:23,430 --> 01:02:21,039
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1373
01:02:26,870 --> 01:02:23,440
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01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:26,880
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1375
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:32,230
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1393
01:03:29,109 --> 01:03:27,440
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1394
01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:29,119
damn it

1395
01:03:36,150 --> 01:03:31,520
jimmy church and fade to black on the

1396
01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:39,349
listen i know and you know that you've

1397
01:03:43,990 --> 01:03:41,760
always wanted your first crystal skull

1398
01:03:46,150 --> 01:03:44,000
or maybe you're a collector just like me

1399
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:46,160
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1400
01:03:49,990 --> 01:03:47,920
find the real thing

1401
01:03:52,630 --> 01:03:50,000
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1402
01:03:55,029 --> 01:03:52,640
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1403
01:03:57,029 --> 01:03:55,039
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1404
01:03:59,510 --> 01:03:57,039
of the most respected ancient crystal

1405
01:04:01,349 --> 01:03:59,520
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01:04:03,670 --> 01:04:01,359
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1407
01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:03,680
einstein in his sacred lodge and are

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01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:07,920
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:10,240
jimmy church tonight giorgio suclose is

1472
01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:12,000
with us

1473
01:07:16,390 --> 01:07:13,359
we're going to be talking about ancient

1474
01:07:19,990 --> 01:07:16,400
aliens season 18 and i'm looking over on

1475
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:20,000
twitter i just popped up uh a shot of uh

1476
01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:22,480
jason giorgio and eric

1477
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:24,319
i've called it all of us in the

1478
01:07:28,549 --> 01:07:27,280
beginning and then somebody oh georgio

1479
01:07:33,349 --> 01:07:28,559
you

1480
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:33,359
i just did yes while we're on the break

1481
01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:34,880
i went through my

1482
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:38,640
through my uh photos and i found it

1483
01:07:42,549 --> 01:07:40,400
this is incredible i'm gonna do a

1484
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:42,559
retweet the

1485
01:07:50,710 --> 01:07:45,440
selfie we'll just call it that that's

1486
01:07:55,349 --> 01:07:52,710
that was when that was when contact was

1487
01:07:57,990 --> 01:07:55,359
still out in the actual desert yeah look

1488
01:08:00,470 --> 01:07:58,000
at eric's face man is that pre that is

1489
01:08:01,910 --> 01:08:00,480
just awesome that is just awesome yeah

1490
01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:01,920
and uh

1491
01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:04,160
and jason jason straight off the cover

1492
01:08:09,109 --> 01:08:06,799
of gq look at that man

1493
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:09,119
amazing good stuff really he looks the

1494
01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:10,640
same today too

1495
01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:12,720
all right um now

1496
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:14,160
the

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01:08:20,070 --> 01:08:17,520
of uh

1498
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:20,080
of ancient aliens because i kind of look

1499
01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:22,400
at it like this

1500
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:25,920
it's like pumapunku

1501
01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:29,279
right the foundations right to now

1502
01:08:35,590 --> 01:08:31,600
and you guys have evolved

1503
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:35,600
and it's not just about the

1504
01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:39,759
the the past but it is today and but all

1505
01:08:44,789 --> 01:08:41,759
the dots are connected right you've got

1506
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:44,799
to evolve with the times

1507
01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:47,759
well also because things are happening

1508
01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:49,199
right now

1509
01:08:53,749 --> 01:08:52,319
you know i mean we would be remiss not

1510
01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:53,759
to address

1511
01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:56,080
the extraterrestrial phenomena that's

1512
01:08:59,189 --> 01:08:57,520
happening

1513
01:09:01,349 --> 01:08:59,199
to or the extraterrestrial phenomena

1514
01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:01,359
that are happening today because

1515
01:09:04,709 --> 01:09:03,199
you know clearly

1516
01:09:07,550 --> 01:09:04,719
there is something going on and i

1517
01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:07,560
remember distinctly back in

1518
01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:11,279
1998 1999 eric had come back to the

1519
01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:14,080
united states in the first time

1520
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:16,960
in 10 or so years and

1521
01:09:21,430 --> 01:09:19,600
often we would sit after his lectures we

1522
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:21,440
would sit somewhere

1523
01:09:26,789 --> 01:09:24,400
outside you know the hotel lobby and

1524
01:09:29,349 --> 01:09:26,799
smoke a cigarette and we would discuss

1525
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:29,359
about or he would actually address this

1526
01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:31,279
idea that you know that he is reading

1527
01:09:34,789 --> 01:09:33,679
more and more about these abduction

1528
01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:34,799
cases

1529
01:09:39,189 --> 01:09:36,640
and that you know

1530
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:39,199
more and more people are approaching him

1531
01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:40,400
about this

1532
01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:43,279
including people that you know are

1533
01:09:48,630 --> 01:09:47,359
uh surgeons and airline pilots and

1534
01:09:51,430 --> 01:09:48,640
you know

1535
01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:51,440
people that you would say their sound of

1536
01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:53,759
mind and not that somebody else is not

1537
01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:56,480
sound of mind but you know

1538
01:10:03,590 --> 01:09:58,560
proverbially a doctor

1539
01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:03,600
or or an attorney or you know

1540
01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:06,560
it's it's not very easy for them to

1541
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:09,440
to admit to something like that so

1542
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:11,520
i think that uh

1543
01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:14,320
you know and and because of this idea

1544
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:16,080
that

1545
01:10:21,430 --> 01:10:19,120
the aliens have never really left and

1546
01:10:23,510 --> 01:10:21,440
have basically watched us the entire

1547
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:23,520
time and this is why they were called

1548
01:10:28,709 --> 01:10:26,560
back then the watchers and the guardians

1549
01:10:30,790 --> 01:10:28,719
of the sky or at least that's what our

1550
01:10:33,189 --> 01:10:30,800
ancestors referred them to

1551
01:10:36,790 --> 01:10:33,199
why would you stop observing

1552
01:10:37,750 --> 01:10:36,800
if you subscribe to the idea that we are

1553
01:10:43,750 --> 01:10:37,760
there

1554
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:43,760
clearly an evolutionary record on planet

1555
01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:45,280
where on our planet where there's a

1556
01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:48,480
fossil record of our human ancestors and

1557
01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:51,120
nobody denies that there was an

1558
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:54,400
evolution on earth nobody denies that a

1559
01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:57,040
fossil record exists but what the

1560
01:11:03,830 --> 01:10:59,679
ancient astronaut theory suggests is

1561
01:11:05,669 --> 01:11:03,840
that homo sapiens 250 000 years ago in

1562
01:11:09,270 --> 01:11:05,679
our genetic record

1563
01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:09,280
something happened our brain sized

1564
01:11:15,430 --> 01:11:12,960
uh volume tripled in size and that

1565
01:11:19,030 --> 01:11:15,440
should necess should not necessarily

1566
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:19,040
happen over a quick period of time but

1567
01:11:25,189 --> 01:11:21,760
rather as darwinian evolution suggests

1568
01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:25,199
over a rather long time period of time

1569
01:11:29,510 --> 01:11:28,159
and that was not the case we've also

1570
01:11:33,350 --> 01:11:29,520
gone through

1571
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:33,360
two bottleneck scenarios in our history

1572
01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:35,760
on earth where

1573
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:38,159
for all intents and purposes the the

1574
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:40,239
human race homo sapiens should have been

1575
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:43,280
eradicated because twice

1576
01:11:48,149 --> 01:11:44,880
our species

1577
01:11:51,350 --> 01:11:48,159
reached a so-called genetic bottleneck

1578
01:11:53,110 --> 01:11:51,360
and if any species and any biologist

1579
01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:53,120
will agree with this

1580
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:56,560
reaches a genetic bottleneck

1581
01:12:03,830 --> 01:11:59,760
level in their population

1582
01:12:06,149 --> 01:12:03,840
they are guaranteed to go extinct

1583
01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:06,159
and that's happened throughout history

1584
01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:08,159
on earth with many many many many many

1585
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:09,440
species

1586
01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:14,400
experienced it twice

1587
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:16,800
and they've survived and that's us human

1588
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:21,120
beings so to ascribe that to coincidence

1589
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:23,360
if that's what you want to think

1590
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:24,960
good for you

1591
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:26,640
i am on the

1592
01:12:33,189 --> 01:12:30,239
leaning towards this thing that

1593
01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:33,199
something or someone

1594
01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:35,520
guaranteed our survival

1595
01:12:41,750 --> 01:12:38,719
um i i i remember telling you about this

1596
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:41,760
but it it bears repeating um

1597
01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:43,760
right after

1598
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:44,719
uh

1599
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:50,560
airs and and i taped it i watched it

1600
01:12:54,149 --> 01:12:52,960
over and over deviated or whatever over

1601
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:54,159
and over again

1602
01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:56,640
um it was like a week later i'm with

1603
01:13:00,390 --> 01:12:58,640
michio kaku

1604
01:13:04,149 --> 01:13:00,400
and uh

1605
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:04,159
so what was that 2008 2009 2008 right

1606
01:13:08,390 --> 01:13:06,800
right in there yeah in 2009 i think yeah

1607
01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:08,400
2009

1608
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:11,440
and i and i bring up

1609
01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:16,239
pumapuku right dimitchio now at the time

1610
01:13:20,229 --> 01:13:18,400
i'm trying to absorb

1611
01:13:22,550 --> 01:13:20,239
uh everything that was presented in the

1612
01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:22,560
ancient aliens these numbers you know 15

1613
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:25,360
000 years and the alignment in the h

1614
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:26,480
blocks

1615
01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:29,199
uh i hadn't met you yet that happened a

1616
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:32,719
a month later at mufon la okay so many

1617
01:13:38,470 --> 01:13:36,480
yeah so um and emichio goes what

1618
01:13:41,189 --> 01:13:38,480
i said 15 000 years ago man it's this

1619
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:41,199
place called pumapunku it's in bolivia

1620
01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:43,440
and and these aids

1621
01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:45,520
wait wait wait no

1622
01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:47,440
and i go what do you mean no and he goes

1623
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:50,800
no man no anything before 10 000 bc ice

1624
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:53,600
age no no no the answer is no

1625
01:13:57,430 --> 01:13:56,000
michael but you don't want to hear

1626
01:14:00,870 --> 01:13:57,440
you know and

1627
01:14:04,750 --> 01:14:00,880
you you're telling me about type one

1628
01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:04,760
civilizations and contacting e.t and

1629
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:06,640
extraterrestrials and the age of the

1630
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:08,080
universe and the size of the universe

1631
01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:09,760
and plan you want to tell me about that

1632
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:11,760
but you don't want to hear about no i

1633
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:12,719
don't

1634
01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:16,000
and he just and and that is where

1635
01:14:22,070 --> 01:14:18,719
academia was back then

1636
01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:22,080
have you seen a shift in in attitude

1637
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:24,800
oh absolutely because uh

1638
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:27,520
and i'm glad you you bring up uh dr kaku

1639
01:14:33,669 --> 01:14:30,880
michio because he in fact as you know

1640
01:14:35,350 --> 01:14:33,679
has become a regular on ancient aliens

1641
01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:35,360
and trust me

1642
01:14:40,229 --> 01:14:37,679
none of us are holding a gun to his head

1643
01:14:43,510 --> 01:14:40,239
saying you have to appear and talk about

1644
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:43,520
aliens he is voluntarily offering his

1645
01:14:48,950 --> 01:14:46,560
time you know to talk to us about the

1646
01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:48,960
mysteries of space and you know we we've

1647
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:51,120
used them in our in our episodes about

1648
01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:53,920
the future and and space exploration and

1649
01:14:57,830 --> 01:14:56,400
stuff like this and what's really cool

1650
01:14:58,790 --> 01:14:57,840
about him

1651
01:15:01,110 --> 01:14:58,800
is

1652
01:15:03,270 --> 01:15:01,120
and and your story goes back you know

1653
01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:03,280
now 12 13 years

1654
01:15:07,189 --> 01:15:04,480
but

1655
01:15:09,830 --> 01:15:07,199
michio kaku ever since about eight

1656
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:09,840
months or even about an a year now or it

1657
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:11,760
was a year and a half ago

1658
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:15,040
where when the first navy ufo videos

1659
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:18,400
were released publicly he is the was one

1660
01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:21,120
of the first ones to say you know as a

1661
01:15:24,870 --> 01:15:23,280
you know astrophysicist he knows a

1662
01:15:27,830 --> 01:15:24,880
little bit about you know physics and

1663
01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:27,840
acceleration and things like that

1664
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:29,920
and seeing these videos where these

1665
01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:32,719
these objects accelerate and change

1666
01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:35,920
direction and come to an abrupt stop at

1667
01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:38,159
such speeds that he was able to

1668
01:15:45,189 --> 01:15:41,760
calculate the speeds um he was saying

1669
01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:45,199
now and i quote it is now up to

1670
01:15:52,229 --> 01:15:48,320
us earthlings or scientists

1671
01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:52,239
to determine or to to put forth evidence

1672
01:15:55,030 --> 01:15:54,159
that this is

1673
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:55,040
not

1674
01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:56,640
extraterrestrial

1675
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:57,760
because

1676
01:16:01,830 --> 01:16:00,000
what else would it be

1677
01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:01,840
i mean that is now what he is saying

1678
01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:05,040
that what we are seeing is so far

1679
01:16:10,630 --> 01:16:07,360
advanced that he

1680
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:10,640
as a physicist cannot explain this

1681
01:16:17,350 --> 01:16:14,560
technology away with earthly origins

1682
01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:17,360
now what about uh

1683
01:16:23,189 --> 01:16:20,719
things like pumapunku um and some of the

1684
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:23,199
other ancient evidence out there have

1685
01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:25,360
you had a chance to speak to him about

1686
01:16:30,310 --> 01:16:26,320
that

1687
01:16:32,870 --> 01:16:30,320
i have not but uh another uh a person in

1688
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:32,880
academia and whose name i will not

1689
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:35,440
mention because they don't deserve that

1690
01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:37,760
is where for example and it's it's a

1691
01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:39,760
very odd situation because i would love

1692
01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:41,600
to have this conversation with micho of

1693
01:16:45,030 --> 01:16:43,679
course but for example i had an

1694
01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:45,040
interview and then

1695
01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:47,520
uh the the mics were off and we were

1696
01:16:53,189 --> 01:16:49,840
able to talk and

1697
01:16:57,669 --> 01:16:53,199
so the question was how come that you

1698
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,679
explain a way that the ancient egyptian

1699
01:17:01,030 --> 01:16:59,760
pyramids for example may have been built

1700
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:01,040
with the

1701
01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:04,080
help of extraterrestrial knowledge

1702
01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:07,440
and or extraterrestrial technology

1703
01:17:11,270 --> 01:17:10,400
and why are you not suggesting the same

1704
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:11,280
thing

1705
01:17:16,550 --> 01:17:14,480
for the coliseum in rome

1706
01:17:18,709 --> 01:17:16,560
what what kind of a question first of

1707
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:18,719
all is this and second of all the

1708
01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:21,040
question illustrates to me

1709
01:17:26,630 --> 01:17:23,840
that you've not really

1710
01:17:28,950 --> 01:17:26,640
you know um familiarized yourself with

1711
01:17:30,390 --> 01:17:28,960
the topic because first of all there

1712
01:17:32,790 --> 01:17:30,400
there they're they're thousands of years

1713
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:32,800
apart number one and two

1714
01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:35,280
the the the manufacturing style or the

1715
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:37,920
building the masonry style of two of

1716
01:17:43,669 --> 01:17:41,120
those uh monuments is vastly different

1717
01:17:46,709 --> 01:17:43,679
where one is

1718
01:17:48,149 --> 01:17:46,719
truly megalithic and you know monumental

1719
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:48,159
in scale

1720
01:17:52,390 --> 01:17:49,920
and

1721
01:17:55,350 --> 01:17:52,400
uh yeah i'm i'm just gonna say it you

1722
01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:55,360
know the the coliseum

1723
01:18:01,350 --> 01:17:58,320
it's kind of i mean it's it's it's great

1724
01:18:02,390 --> 01:18:01,360
it's it's fantastic but no you don't

1725
01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:02,400
need

1726
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:05,520
extraterrestrial knowledge or tech uh to

1727
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:08,880
build a coliseum type structure because

1728
01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:12,480
the stones used for the coliseum were

1729
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:15,520
tiny compared to what you have

1730
01:18:21,350 --> 01:18:18,800
you know at the pyramid so sure that was

1731
01:18:23,510 --> 01:18:21,360
transported with ropes and pulleys and

1732
01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:23,520
and and moved around like that no

1733
01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:25,920
problem and i've never denied that in

1734
01:18:30,550 --> 01:18:28,320
fact i've never said that any of the

1735
01:18:32,790 --> 01:18:30,560
ancient structures were built by aliens

1736
01:18:35,669 --> 01:18:32,800
of course it was human beings who who

1737
01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:35,679
did it uh you know but to suggest that

1738
01:18:39,430 --> 01:18:37,440
you know oh

1739
01:18:41,510 --> 01:18:39,440
we are talking about extraterrestrial

1740
01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:41,520
influence on ancient egypt but we're not

1741
01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:44,560
talking about that in ancient rome well

1742
01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:46,320
it's preposterous because first of all

1743
01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:48,800
the ancient romans took over the greek

1744
01:18:54,310 --> 01:18:50,640
the pantheon of gods from the ancient

1745
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:54,320
greeks and we have 100

1746
01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:57,120
always maintained and proposed that the

1747
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:00,880
entire ancient greek pantheon of gods

1748
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:04,960
is based on ancient astronaut theory and

1749
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:07,920
that zeus and apollo and all of these

1750
01:19:14,390 --> 01:19:11,120
ancient deities were a derivative and

1751
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:14,400
based of an extraterrestrial visitation

1752
01:19:18,630 --> 01:19:16,400
of extraterrestrial visitations in the

1753
01:19:20,390 --> 01:19:18,640
ancient past yeah and one of the

1754
01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:20,400
incredible

1755
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:23,440
things for me when we discuss

1756
01:19:28,229 --> 01:19:25,440
rome and greece

1757
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:28,239
versus egypt everybody needs to put this

1758
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:30,800
in context giorgio again not you and i

1759
01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:34,320
but if every like this intellectual that

1760
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:38,400
you spoke to off camera is this

1761
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:42,400
the pyramids if we follow the timeline

1762
01:19:50,709 --> 01:19:44,880
of egyptologist right okay so let's say

1763
01:19:52,149 --> 01:19:50,719
2650 bc gisa all right 26 50 bc

1764
01:19:54,950 --> 01:19:52,159
rome

1765
01:19:56,470 --> 01:19:54,960
and greece didn't happen

1766
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:56,480
for another

1767
01:19:59,910 --> 01:19:57,520
2

1768
01:20:07,750 --> 01:19:59,920
000 years

1769
01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:07,760
and rome at 400 b.c wasn't rome

1770
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:09,760
it was mud huts

1771
01:20:14,790 --> 01:20:12,080
right let's be very clear here and you

1772
01:20:16,830 --> 01:20:14,800
know and there was there was a huge

1773
01:20:20,390 --> 01:20:16,840
exchange of

1774
01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:20,400
trade and and and information and

1775
01:20:25,270 --> 01:20:22,880
knowledge between the ancient egyptians

1776
01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:25,280
and also the the greeks and back and

1777
01:20:30,629 --> 01:20:28,560
forth and as we all know the romans

1778
01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:30,639
you know enslaved the greeks but the way

1779
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:33,360
they were quote unquote enslaved is

1780
01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:35,440
that the greeks were the roman they were

1781
01:20:38,950 --> 01:20:37,040
the roman teachers

1782
01:20:40,149 --> 01:20:38,960
um you know so

1783
01:20:42,709 --> 01:20:40,159
uh

1784
01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:42,719
it's it's all and then to

1785
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:45,679
suggest that you know oh uh the the

1786
01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:49,360
romans uh you know oh they they tune it

1787
01:20:54,629 --> 01:20:51,920
what we've also for example suggested in

1788
01:20:55,910 --> 01:20:54,639
on ancient aliens is that the romans two

1789
01:20:59,590 --> 01:20:55,920
by the way

1790
01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:59,600
built stuff on top of older

1791
01:21:03,590 --> 01:21:00,719
um

1792
01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:03,600
foundation walls that date back to

1793
01:21:08,950 --> 01:21:06,480
pre-roman pre-greek and even to

1794
01:21:11,189 --> 01:21:08,960
babylonian times i mean if we look at

1795
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:11,199
baalbek for example exactly

1796
01:21:16,229 --> 01:21:13,360
where we have one of the biggest stones

1797
01:21:19,510 --> 01:21:16,239
on earth collected you know into a

1798
01:21:22,229 --> 01:21:19,520
gigantic platform well yeah the columns

1799
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:22,239
on top of that are roman yes absolutely

1800
01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:24,560
and they erected them themselves but the

1801
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:25,920
bottom line is

1802
01:21:32,629 --> 01:21:29,760
that those columns came later and the

1803
01:21:33,510 --> 01:21:32,639
platform consisting of trilithons at the

1804
01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:33,520
bottom

1805
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:36,400
that's thousands of years older than the

1806
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:38,320
romans and the greeks and anybody else

1807
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:41,520
that came before and that is the whole

1808
01:21:43,990 --> 01:21:42,480
point

1809
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:44,000
that

1810
01:21:50,149 --> 01:21:47,120
and with all of most of these places

1811
01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:50,159
some significant celestial event

1812
01:21:54,629 --> 01:21:51,840
happened where

1813
01:21:57,350 --> 01:21:54,639
the celestial event didn't just

1814
01:22:01,030 --> 01:21:57,360
wasn't just witnessed up in the sky

1815
01:22:01,990 --> 01:22:01,040
that celestial event came down from the

1816
01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:02,000
sky

1817
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:05,120
landed in front of our ancestors and

1818
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:08,159
began to give instructions

1819
01:22:13,110 --> 01:22:10,400
that is why these places

1820
01:22:14,229 --> 01:22:13,120
have become so important

1821
01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:14,239
in our

1822
01:22:20,790 --> 01:22:17,600
human history how does uh

1823
01:22:22,950 --> 01:22:20,800
uh you know bow back and and of course

1824
01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:22,960
uh the megalithic sites and not only

1825
01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:24,800
that it's cave paintings and

1826
01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:27,840
and and sculptures and and artwork

1827
01:22:31,510 --> 01:22:28,560
but

1828
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:31,520
how does the process work over at

1829
01:22:38,709 --> 01:22:35,360
ancient aliens when you develop a show

1830
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:38,719
do you guys get together and uh pow-wow

1831
01:22:42,870 --> 01:22:40,800
at a secret location somewhere in the

1832
01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:42,880
united states and and plot out the

1833
01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:43,840
season

1834
01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:46,000
take me through that process

1835
01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:49,120
the secret location is now called zoom

1836
01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:51,520
and it's very convenient

1837
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:53,440
so you know we have

1838
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:56,639
at the beginning of each season we have

1839
01:23:02,390 --> 01:22:59,520
yeah like you just said a powwow of all

1840
01:23:04,709 --> 01:23:02,400
the contributing producers um

1841
01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:04,719
being on one zoom call with with our

1842
01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:07,760
notes of topics and ideas

1843
01:23:11,669 --> 01:23:09,120
and

1844
01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:11,679
this is how we then distill

1845
01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:14,239
our topics for the season

1846
01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:16,400
um you know and

1847
01:23:19,830 --> 01:23:17,520
then

1848
01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:19,840
the writers go ahead and and start

1849
01:23:22,709 --> 01:23:21,520
writing and we provide the different

1850
01:23:25,590 --> 01:23:22,719
topics

1851
01:23:28,310 --> 01:23:25,600
and you know we see how we can structure

1852
01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:28,320
each episode according to topic but then

1853
01:23:33,430 --> 01:23:30,560
at the same time the great thing about

1854
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:33,440
the the show is that we can draw

1855
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:36,719
parallels between different

1856
01:23:41,430 --> 01:23:39,120
avenues or different locations of the

1857
01:23:43,830 --> 01:23:41,440
world which is what

1858
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:43,840
mainstream science or mainstream

1859
01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:45,280
archaeology

1860
01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:47,760
doesn't do as much like you know when

1861
01:23:53,669 --> 01:23:49,440
you have

1862
01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:53,679
stories of definitive sky gods in one

1863
01:23:59,430 --> 01:23:57,040
culture and then you have the exact same

1864
01:24:02,709 --> 01:23:59,440
uh definitive stories of sky gods in

1865
01:24:04,629 --> 01:24:02,719
another ancient culture to me it would

1866
01:24:06,709 --> 01:24:04,639
be fascinating or it is fascinating to

1867
01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:06,719
compare the two and look at all the

1868
01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:08,800
parallels and similarities

1869
01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:10,960
to somebody else to an you know to some

1870
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:11,760
of

1871
01:24:14,229 --> 01:24:13,440
you know the modern day academics it's

1872
01:24:16,390 --> 01:24:14,239
like

1873
01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:16,400
why are you wasting your time

1874
01:24:21,669 --> 01:24:18,719
it's all based on primordial ideas

1875
01:24:23,430 --> 01:24:21,679
anyway so this is all fantasy see and

1876
01:24:25,350 --> 01:24:23,440
this is where our

1877
01:24:26,390 --> 01:24:25,360
viewpoints diverge

1878
01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:26,400
because

1879
01:24:31,270 --> 01:24:28,560
yes of course over time

1880
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:31,280
stories get embellished and

1881
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:35,040
expanded upon but the core

1882
01:24:39,430 --> 01:24:36,880
is always the same

1883
01:24:43,030 --> 01:24:39,440
someone descended from the sky and

1884
01:24:46,470 --> 01:24:43,040
helped our ancestors as our first

1885
01:24:49,590 --> 01:24:46,480
teachers and since when is it wrong to

1886
01:24:52,629 --> 01:24:49,600
suggest that at some point at the very

1887
01:24:55,110 --> 01:24:52,639
beginning we've had teachers it's a

1888
01:24:57,270 --> 01:24:55,120
wonderful idea now uh

1889
01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:57,280
who is the core group we've got william

1890
01:24:59,830 --> 01:24:58,480
henry

1891
01:25:02,629 --> 01:24:59,840
yourself

1892
01:25:05,430 --> 01:25:02,639
um who is the core group that that sits

1893
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:05,440
on the zoom caller sits around the table

1894
01:25:10,550 --> 01:25:07,679
that david childress is part of it and

1895
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:10,560
then nick nick pope right and then

1896
01:25:16,229 --> 01:25:14,239
carolyn corey right um and

1897
01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:16,239
linda moulton howe

1898
01:25:22,629 --> 01:25:19,040
and i think the the um

1899
01:25:24,149 --> 01:25:22,639
yeah yeah uh michael carter so

1900
01:25:27,189 --> 01:25:24,159
you know i mean basically everybody that

1901
01:25:29,990 --> 01:25:27,199
you saw at that uh uh on the round table

1902
01:25:32,149 --> 01:25:30,000
and of course also you know the

1903
01:25:34,149 --> 01:25:32,159
the showrunner david silver and the head

1904
01:25:35,750 --> 01:25:34,159
writer max thompson

1905
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:35,760
you know and you know

1906
01:25:39,910 --> 01:25:37,840
they're doing an amazing job i mean max

1907
01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:39,920
and and david have been you know they've

1908
01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:42,960
been with us since season i think two or

1909
01:25:46,550 --> 01:25:44,560
three so

1910
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:46,560
amazing what what prometheus is doing

1911
01:25:53,189 --> 01:25:49,360
and i'm incredibly grateful

1912
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:53,199
for the opportunity given continually by

1913
01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:55,360
by the history channel i mean they too

1914
01:26:00,390 --> 01:25:58,800
are are very courageous for them to uh

1915
01:26:02,950 --> 01:26:00,400
to keep airing the show

1916
01:26:05,110 --> 01:26:02,960
now uh and and each one of them brings a

1917
01:26:07,750 --> 01:26:05,120
very interesting perspective

1918
01:26:08,870 --> 01:26:07,760
as an individual and that that's very

1919
01:26:10,950 --> 01:26:08,880
interesting

1920
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:10,960
um and by the way linda just turned to

1921
01:26:14,950 --> 01:26:12,880
80.

1922
01:26:17,669 --> 01:26:14,960
doesn't she look amazing amazing she's

1923
01:26:20,950 --> 01:26:17,679
so sharp still it's fantastic i love her

1924
01:26:23,590 --> 01:26:20,960
dearly 80 years old now um but

1925
01:26:25,110 --> 01:26:23,600
everybody's got a their own

1926
01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:25,120
uh thing that they can bring to the

1927
01:26:31,510 --> 01:26:27,760
table but who's got the voting power i

1928
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:34,550
it's it's it's the network

1929
01:26:38,629 --> 01:26:36,480
in the end it's the network i mean we

1930
01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:38,639
are contributing uh producers

1931
01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:41,760
contributors uh but in the end it's it's

1932
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:44,239
the network and and prometheus

1933
01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:47,760
and uh you know i mean i i have a i look

1934
01:26:52,470 --> 01:26:49,840
at rough cuts and i have a say in you

1935
01:26:55,669 --> 01:26:52,480
know pictures or if there's a wrong

1936
01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:55,679
pictures and stuff like that but the the

1937
01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:58,719
in i mean and that's with many um you

1938
01:27:02,550 --> 01:27:00,560
know with with many properties that

1939
01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:02,560
ultimately it's the it's the network or

1940
01:27:07,510 --> 01:27:05,199
the production company and you know

1941
01:27:10,310 --> 01:27:07,520
that's how it is it always was yeah it

1942
01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:10,320
is it is it truly is um now we're going

1943
01:27:14,229 --> 01:27:12,400
to head towards a break and i want to

1944
01:27:16,149 --> 01:27:14,239
set up for what i would like to discuss

1945
01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:16,159
after the break which is this i brought

1946
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:18,480
up pumapunku earlier

1947
01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:19,920
and

1948
01:27:25,990 --> 01:27:21,600
uh is

1949
01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:26,000
is that is it still the one thing

1950
01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:27,679
that you will bring up when somebody

1951
01:27:32,709 --> 01:27:30,719
says okay well wha what have you got

1952
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:32,719
well there's puma punku

1953
01:27:38,790 --> 01:27:35,840
is is pumapunku still the core for you

1954
01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:38,800
when we look at uh the ancient past or

1955
01:27:44,310 --> 01:27:41,040
has that changed

1956
01:27:47,910 --> 01:27:44,320
it has uh yes it's still the same but i

1957
01:27:51,030 --> 01:27:47,920
i i came across something recently

1958
01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:51,040
where i've always been um

1959
01:27:54,629 --> 01:27:53,360
enamored by the ozirion

1960
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:54,639
and uh

1961
01:27:59,270 --> 01:27:58,320
it seems as if the azirion may have

1962
01:28:01,110 --> 01:27:59,280
a

1963
01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:01,120
twin

1964
01:28:05,270 --> 01:28:02,800
excuse me

1965
01:28:09,110 --> 01:28:06,450
giorgio

1966
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:09,120
[Laughter]

1967
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:10,960
excuse me

1968
01:28:16,310 --> 01:28:14,080
yeah and and it's it's about 350 miles

1969
01:28:20,229 --> 01:28:16,320
south of um

1970
01:28:23,430 --> 01:28:20,239
of uh of of of giza or of cairo where

1971
01:28:25,030 --> 01:28:23,440
the where the famous ozirion is

1972
01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:25,040
but there is another megalithic

1973
01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:28,080
structure a monumental structure that is

1974
01:28:31,110 --> 01:28:30,239
350 miles south

1975
01:28:32,950 --> 01:28:31,120
um

1976
01:28:37,430 --> 01:28:32,960
and uh

1977
01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:37,440
some of the blocks there are one two one

1978
01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:40,639
identical to the block cuts the the the

1979
01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:42,960
blocks cut at the ozirion

1980
01:28:51,350 --> 01:28:47,280
now uh what what is this site called

1981
01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:51,360
okay so the site is called

1982
01:28:56,790 --> 01:28:55,120
kasser hold on

1983
01:29:02,070 --> 01:28:56,800
have you been there

1984
01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:02,080
i have not no i have not it is called

1985
01:29:10,229 --> 01:29:08,070
is it near ed food it's called it's

1986
01:29:14,709 --> 01:29:10,239
called the casa el saga temple

1987
01:29:17,590 --> 01:29:16,790
casa el saga

1988
01:29:19,510 --> 01:29:17,600
and

1989
01:29:21,910 --> 01:29:19,520
it is um

1990
01:29:24,790 --> 01:29:21,920
truly extraordinary and

1991
01:29:27,350 --> 01:29:24,800
i will you know planning i'm planning a

1992
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:27,360
trip to egypt and if i go then obviously

1993
01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:29,040
this will be on

1994
01:29:35,510 --> 01:29:32,960
the uh on the itinerary but the lintel

1995
01:29:36,709 --> 01:29:35,520
stone that is over one of the main

1996
01:29:39,350 --> 01:29:36,719
entrances

1997
01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:39,360
is identical to

1998
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:41,760
uh the ozirion and so it would be

1999
01:29:46,629 --> 01:29:44,159
interesting to go and see it and to see

2000
01:29:47,830 --> 01:29:46,639
and check out if they also have like

2001
01:29:50,790 --> 01:29:47,840
graffiti

2002
01:29:53,110 --> 01:29:50,800
like the flower of life that you can see

2003
01:29:55,430 --> 01:29:53,120
in uh at the ozirion let's take our

2004
01:29:56,629 --> 01:29:55,440
break right here this is fade to black

2005
01:29:59,189 --> 01:29:56,639
i'm your host jimmy church tonight

2006
01:30:01,590 --> 01:29:59,199
giorgio suculos is with us

2007
01:30:03,669 --> 01:30:01,600
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2008
01:30:05,830 --> 01:30:03,679
i want to talk more about pumapunku

2009
01:30:07,270 --> 01:30:05,840
what's going on in bolivia but i also

2010
01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:07,280
want to talk about

2011
01:30:17,050 --> 01:30:10,000
go beckley tapping we'll do all of that

2012
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2014
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2015
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01:33:53,750 --> 01:33:49,030
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2084
01:33:59,270 --> 01:33:56,310
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2085
01:34:02,070 --> 01:33:59,280
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2086
01:34:05,350 --> 01:34:02,080
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2089
01:34:48,790 --> 01:34:39,140
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2090
01:34:52,149 --> 01:34:50,470
welcome back fade to black i am your

2091
01:34:54,229 --> 01:34:52,159
host jimmy church tonight giorgio

2092
01:34:56,149 --> 01:34:54,239
sucralose is with us

2093
01:34:58,310 --> 01:34:56,159
talking about ancient aliens ancient

2094
01:35:01,350 --> 01:34:58,320
aliens season 18

2095
01:35:03,430 --> 01:35:01,360
and uh giorgio i noticed

2096
01:35:05,510 --> 01:35:03,440
in the two pictures that we posted you

2097
01:35:07,189 --> 01:35:05,520
did the selfie and i did the other one i

2098
01:35:08,550 --> 01:35:07,199
called it in the beginning i just

2099
01:35:10,870 --> 01:35:08,560
noticed those

2100
01:35:14,629 --> 01:35:10,880
those were a year apart we're wearing

2101
01:35:19,669 --> 01:35:15,750
okay

2102
01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:19,679
good yeah yeah it's it's a year apart

2103
01:35:24,709 --> 01:35:22,000
i i thought it was i thought it was the

2104
01:35:27,109 --> 01:35:24,719
same but it wasn't those uh

2105
01:35:30,149 --> 01:35:27,119
either that or we changed uh

2106
01:35:31,990 --> 01:35:30,159
between uh between shots but uh yeah

2107
01:35:35,189 --> 01:35:32,000
those were a year apart

2108
01:35:37,189 --> 01:35:35,199
they absolutely were for sure yeah you

2109
01:35:40,629 --> 01:35:37,199
know what's what's really funny before

2110
01:35:42,390 --> 01:35:40,639
uh i i do want to get into uh uh some

2111
01:35:44,629 --> 01:35:42,400
comparisons between

2112
01:35:47,270 --> 01:35:44,639
uh continents here and i'm talking about

2113
01:35:51,430 --> 01:35:47,280
south america and and what is going on

2114
01:35:53,189 --> 01:35:51,440
over in the middle east um but uh uh

2115
01:35:54,070 --> 01:35:53,199
last summer

2116
01:35:58,310 --> 01:35:54,080
uh

2117
01:36:00,550 --> 01:35:58,320
and said

2118
01:36:02,790 --> 01:36:00,560
i would like you to be on my podcast

2119
01:36:04,629 --> 01:36:02,800
and i was like what right okay so i did

2120
01:36:06,629 --> 01:36:04,639
i'm sure you know it's not that big of a

2121
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:06,639
deal well it was a huge deal but but

2122
01:36:10,470 --> 01:36:08,159
that's not my point

2123
01:36:13,910 --> 01:36:10,480
eric's first question

2124
01:36:15,830 --> 01:36:13,920
to me check this out he goes so jimmy

2125
01:36:17,510 --> 01:36:15,840
how did you get into this

2126
01:36:20,550 --> 01:36:17,520
and i said dude

2127
01:36:28,709 --> 01:36:21,590
and

2128
01:36:30,870 --> 01:36:28,719
i really had to

2129
01:36:33,590 --> 01:36:30,880
uh just go straight there and let him

2130
01:36:36,149 --> 01:36:33,600
know that i'm not the only one that's

2131
01:36:40,870 --> 01:36:36,159
got an eric von danican got me started

2132
01:36:43,030 --> 01:36:40,880
in this thing story um his his impact

2133
01:36:45,109 --> 01:36:43,040
has been tremendous hasn't it

2134
01:36:47,350 --> 01:36:45,119
not only you know with you but just

2135
01:36:50,229 --> 01:36:47,360
about every researcher

2136
01:36:52,629 --> 01:36:50,239
that is into this today and including uh

2137
01:36:54,790 --> 01:36:52,639
the fans that follow what we do

2138
01:36:57,030 --> 01:36:54,800
they've all got the same identical story

2139
01:36:59,350 --> 01:36:57,040
it was eric

2140
01:37:01,270 --> 01:36:59,360
no i it's it's really amazing and he

2141
01:37:02,390 --> 01:37:01,280
sends his love by the way he's he's

2142
01:37:04,229 --> 01:37:02,400
healthy

2143
01:37:07,910 --> 01:37:04,239
and he is writing

2144
01:37:09,189 --> 01:37:07,920
his his newest book i mean the guy

2145
01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:09,199
you know

2146
01:37:13,030 --> 01:37:11,440
he just keeps churning them out uh you

2147
01:37:15,830 --> 01:37:13,040
know and in fact the book that he's

2148
01:37:19,189 --> 01:37:15,840
writing right now is all about uh

2149
01:37:21,270 --> 01:37:19,199
religion and organized religion and how

2150
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:21,280
what the reasons may be

2151
01:37:26,709 --> 01:37:23,920
why we have organized religion and the

2152
01:37:27,510 --> 01:37:26,719
many ways in which organized religion is

2153
01:37:28,629 --> 01:37:27,520
wrong

2154
01:37:30,470 --> 01:37:28,639
so

2155
01:37:32,709 --> 01:37:30,480
right up our alley

2156
01:37:33,910 --> 01:37:32,719
yeah and um

2157
01:37:35,030 --> 01:37:33,920
go ahead yeah

2158
01:37:38,390 --> 01:37:35,040
he uh

2159
01:37:40,950 --> 01:37:38,400
uh well he's said this many times uh to

2160
01:37:44,870 --> 01:37:40,960
myself and you and others that that's

2161
01:37:46,830 --> 01:37:44,880
his foundation was translating the bible

2162
01:37:49,590 --> 01:37:46,840
right and if anybody

2163
01:37:51,510 --> 01:37:49,600
understands uh what is going on there

2164
01:37:53,910 --> 01:37:51,520
from that context he's been doing this

2165
01:37:55,030 --> 01:37:53,920
since he was a kid

2166
01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:55,040
right and and

2167
01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:57,520
and his point there was or his

2168
01:38:02,310 --> 01:37:59,600
eureka moment came when he was

2169
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:02,320
translating these bible texts from

2170
01:38:08,229 --> 01:38:05,040
german to latin and latin to greek and

2171
01:38:10,550 --> 01:38:08,239
then from greek back into german for

2172
01:38:11,430 --> 01:38:10,560
for latin and greek class in high school

2173
01:38:16,229 --> 01:38:11,440
and

2174
01:38:19,510 --> 01:38:16,239
right you know all of a sudden he came

2175
01:38:20,470 --> 01:38:19,520
across passages of a so-called war in

2176
01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:20,480
heaven

2177
01:38:25,350 --> 01:38:24,239
and he always says that as a young boy

2178
01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:25,360
just this

2179
01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:27,760
the sentence alone that there was a war

2180
01:38:33,350 --> 01:38:30,639
in heaven it gave him pause and he

2181
01:38:36,229 --> 01:38:33,360
wondered or was curious

2182
01:38:38,550 --> 01:38:36,239
why would there be a war in heaven or

2183
01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:38,560
stories of a war in heaven if you know

2184
01:38:43,350 --> 01:38:41,760
my teachers or my my my my theologians

2185
01:38:45,590 --> 01:38:43,360
or my priests

2186
01:38:47,590 --> 01:38:45,600
and the jesuit priests that i'm that

2187
01:38:49,590 --> 01:38:47,600
that are teaching me these things are

2188
01:38:52,629 --> 01:38:49,600
telling me how wonderful heaven is and

2189
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:52,639
it's paradise and it's wonderful so

2190
01:38:58,870 --> 01:38:55,360
a war in heaven is a complete and utter

2191
01:38:59,990 --> 01:38:58,880
contradiction so what's going on and in

2192
01:39:03,030 --> 01:39:00,000
fact

2193
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:03,040
there was one of the jesuit priests that

2194
01:39:06,470 --> 01:39:04,480
eric

2195
01:39:09,430 --> 01:39:06,480
was close with as a

2196
01:39:12,790 --> 01:39:09,440
a student at that boarding school who

2197
01:39:15,350 --> 01:39:12,800
gave him eric a book about the different

2198
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:15,360
angels and their potential

2199
01:39:19,910 --> 01:39:17,440
um esoteric

2200
01:39:23,270 --> 01:39:19,920
backgrounds and this was a book in in

2201
01:39:24,950 --> 01:39:23,280
the 50s that eric was given um

2202
01:39:27,990 --> 01:39:24,960
you know so

2203
01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:28,000
this jesuit priest definitely planted

2204
01:39:31,750 --> 01:39:30,880
the seed for eric at the time when he

2205
01:39:34,149 --> 01:39:31,760
saw

2206
01:39:35,189 --> 01:39:34,159
that this young erikson danican is

2207
01:39:37,030 --> 01:39:35,199
asking

2208
01:39:37,830 --> 01:39:37,040
questions about

2209
01:39:39,030 --> 01:39:37,840
the

2210
01:39:42,149 --> 01:39:39,040
you know

2211
01:39:44,550 --> 01:39:42,159
glaring contradictions of words in the

2212
01:39:46,950 --> 01:39:44,560
bible and so instead of

2213
01:39:50,470 --> 01:39:46,960
squashing eric down

2214
01:39:52,950 --> 01:39:50,480
he actually fostered his curiosity and

2215
01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:52,960
you know that does not happen often

2216
01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:54,719
especially

2217
01:39:58,950 --> 01:39:57,760
in a christian boarding school

2218
01:40:02,950 --> 01:39:58,960
you know there

2219
01:40:06,390 --> 01:40:02,960
any doubt is is immediately squashed and

2220
01:40:09,189 --> 01:40:06,400
eric eric's doubt was not squashed in

2221
01:40:10,709 --> 01:40:09,199
fact it was expanded

2222
01:40:12,950 --> 01:40:10,719
the uh

2223
01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:12,960
the viewing and i expanded and by

2224
01:40:17,189 --> 01:40:14,880
expanded i don't mean that eric has

2225
01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:17,199
doubt i mean as eric always likes to say

2226
01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:19,760
eric is one of the few people that still

2227
01:40:25,830 --> 01:40:22,400
pray every day you know so it's not like

2228
01:40:28,790 --> 01:40:25,840
he doubts at all he does not doubt the

2229
01:40:31,189 --> 01:40:28,800
existence of god it was just a question

2230
01:40:33,910 --> 01:40:31,199
that he had well could what's described

2231
01:40:35,830 --> 01:40:33,920
in the bible not necessarily be god

2232
01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:35,840
which could be explained away with the

2233
01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:38,560
fabric of the universe but this here was

2234
01:40:41,189 --> 01:40:39,920
described in the old testament

2235
01:40:43,990 --> 01:40:41,199
especially

2236
01:40:44,870 --> 01:40:44,000
is more or less some type of a

2237
01:40:47,990 --> 01:40:44,880
you know

2238
01:40:49,350 --> 01:40:48,000
person an actual physical person that

2239
01:40:52,229 --> 01:40:49,360
seemed to have

2240
01:40:55,030 --> 01:40:52,239
arrived here in some type of a vehicle

2241
01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:55,040
because we can read these stories of you

2242
01:40:59,990 --> 01:40:57,440
know ezekiel's wheels and the glory of

2243
01:41:02,149 --> 01:41:00,000
the lord flying around and things like

2244
01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:02,159
that and the fire and the smoke and the

2245
01:41:07,430 --> 01:41:04,560
trembling of the earth as this glory of

2246
01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:07,440
the lord descended well you know

2247
01:41:11,430 --> 01:41:08,960
why would why would the glory of the

2248
01:41:12,390 --> 01:41:11,440
lord have to be so loud and noisy i mean

2249
01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:12,400
you know

2250
01:41:17,030 --> 01:41:16,159
uh couldn't god be more elegant so

2251
01:41:18,470 --> 01:41:17,040
you know

2252
01:41:20,950 --> 01:41:18,480
so that is where

2253
01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:20,960
it began for eric and

2254
01:41:25,270 --> 01:41:22,719
you know he still talks about it i mean

2255
01:41:26,629 --> 01:41:25,280
it was a a defining moment for him that

2256
01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:26,639
this priest

2257
01:41:31,350 --> 01:41:28,560
instead of saying eric stop asking these

2258
01:41:33,350 --> 01:41:31,360
stupid questions he actually gave him

2259
01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:33,360
books to say well you know what you're

2260
01:41:36,229 --> 01:41:35,199
interested in this read this this and

2261
01:41:39,990 --> 01:41:36,239
that

2262
01:41:43,189 --> 01:41:40,000
the amazing yeah and uh i still

2263
01:41:45,430 --> 01:41:43,199
i did it last month i watched chariots

2264
01:41:47,350 --> 01:41:45,440
of the gods last month

2265
01:41:51,669 --> 01:41:47,360
i watch it all the time

2266
01:41:55,510 --> 01:41:53,669
yeah not just a documentary i mean that

2267
01:41:56,390 --> 01:41:55,520
wasn't you know standalone thing anyway

2268
01:41:59,189 --> 01:41:56,400
but

2269
01:42:02,149 --> 01:41:59,199
the book itself i mean if if some of our

2270
01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:02,159
listeners right now have not yet read

2271
01:42:06,229 --> 01:42:04,719
chariots of the gods go and do it first

2272
01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:06,239
of all it's a quick read you'll be done

2273
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:09,040
in two three days um but it still holds

2274
01:42:11,030 --> 01:42:09,760
up

2275
01:42:13,109 --> 01:42:11,040
and um

2276
01:42:15,910 --> 01:42:13,119
you know and by the way did you know

2277
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:15,920
jimmy that uh chariots of the gods was

2278
01:42:20,070 --> 01:42:18,960
was the first movie ever shown on a

2279
01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:20,080
plane

2280
01:42:24,310 --> 01:42:23,280
back in 1970 and it was a pan am flight

2281
01:42:27,430 --> 01:42:24,320
between

2282
01:42:28,870 --> 01:42:27,440
uh toronto and i think new york city or

2283
01:42:30,870 --> 01:42:28,880
something like that is that is that a

2284
01:42:33,270 --> 01:42:30,880
fact is that a fact

2285
01:42:35,109 --> 01:42:33,280
i don't know the destination is not a

2286
01:42:37,270 --> 01:42:35,119
fact but the fact is that chariots of

2287
01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:37,280
the gods was the first movie shown on

2288
01:42:49,109 --> 01:42:47,990
you can't you can't question uh evd you

2289
01:42:52,470 --> 01:42:49,119
just can't do it

2290
01:42:54,709 --> 01:42:52,480
well okay so if we go and this is what i

2291
01:42:56,470 --> 01:42:54,719
find really interesting when

2292
01:42:58,149 --> 01:42:56,480
um i love talking about the old

2293
01:43:00,229 --> 01:42:58,159
testament and the reason why i like

2294
01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:00,239
talking about the old testament is

2295
01:43:05,590 --> 01:43:03,280
because it is not 300 a.d

2296
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:05,600
it is not the new testament the the

2297
01:43:09,030 --> 01:43:07,920
stories there in the timeline as

2298
01:43:11,669 --> 01:43:09,040
presented

2299
01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:11,679
is ancient ancient history

2300
01:43:18,470 --> 01:43:12,719
the

2301
01:43:22,390 --> 01:43:18,480
scholars is that everything started at

2302
01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:22,400
2650 bc in in in gisa

2303
01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:25,280
uh mesopotamia ancient sumer that

2304
01:43:29,910 --> 01:43:28,400
timeline you know of 3000 bc is is the

2305
01:43:31,990 --> 01:43:29,920
start of everything

2306
01:43:33,910 --> 01:43:32,000
show us something else and then we can

2307
01:43:34,870 --> 01:43:33,920
have a discussion but right now it's

2308
01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:34,880
there

2309
01:43:40,709 --> 01:43:37,679
well now we have things like uh

2310
01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:40,719
pumapunku we have the sites in bolivia

2311
01:43:46,070 --> 01:43:43,360
uh the sites in peru and of course go

2312
01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:46,080
back li tepi which now

2313
01:43:52,709 --> 01:43:49,199
clearly suggests something was going on

2314
01:43:54,390 --> 01:43:52,719
not one not two but seven thousand years

2315
01:43:55,510 --> 01:43:54,400
before

2316
01:43:58,790 --> 01:43:55,520
giza

2317
01:44:01,830 --> 01:43:58,800
now that right there should open up the

2318
01:44:03,510 --> 01:44:01,840
minds of of all of the historians and

2319
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:03,520
archaeologists anthropologists around

2320
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:06,080
the world and it hasn't how do we get

2321
01:44:11,270 --> 01:44:08,880
this to change

2322
01:44:12,550 --> 01:44:11,280
you know i that's a great question

2323
01:44:14,709 --> 01:44:12,560
because

2324
01:44:17,990 --> 01:44:14,719
what i even would like to venture to say

2325
01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:18,000
is that gobekli tepe will not be the

2326
01:44:22,070 --> 01:44:18,960
last

2327
01:44:24,229 --> 01:44:22,080
that there are other buried sites

2328
01:44:26,390 --> 01:44:24,239
artificially buried sites

2329
01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:26,400
that have not even yet been discovered

2330
01:44:31,510 --> 01:44:29,199
and so it would be really wonderful if

2331
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:31,520
we could you know somehow free more

2332
01:44:34,550 --> 01:44:32,880
resources

2333
01:44:36,709 --> 01:44:34,560
for satellite

2334
01:44:37,750 --> 01:44:36,719
investigation of our

2335
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:37,760
of our

2336
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:40,000
you know soil because we now have the

2337
01:44:44,550 --> 01:44:42,960
technology to look at potential

2338
01:44:45,750 --> 01:44:44,560
buried sites

2339
01:44:47,430 --> 01:44:45,760
and

2340
01:44:49,430 --> 01:44:47,440
you know i i

2341
01:44:51,910 --> 01:44:49,440
this whole thing that's happening right

2342
01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:51,920
now that we have all this technology and

2343
01:44:56,070 --> 01:44:54,960
we're not using it is interesting to me

2344
01:44:58,149 --> 01:44:56,080
because

2345
01:44:59,990 --> 01:44:58,159
you know why i mean why are we not

2346
01:45:01,830 --> 01:45:00,000
turning all the satellites towards

2347
01:45:03,109 --> 01:45:01,840
pumapunku and look underneath the ground

2348
01:45:05,189 --> 01:45:03,119
there or

2349
01:45:07,430 --> 01:45:05,199
you know gobekli tepe and see if there's

2350
01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:07,440
more around so

2351
01:45:12,229 --> 01:45:10,320
what why is that so because

2352
01:45:14,629 --> 01:45:12,239
i really would think

2353
01:45:17,590 --> 01:45:14,639
that at this point in our history

2354
01:45:20,629 --> 01:45:17,600
our origins are the one of the most

2355
01:45:23,189 --> 01:45:20,639
important questions and if we can prove

2356
01:45:25,030 --> 01:45:23,199
that our our ancestry goes actually

2357
01:45:27,109 --> 01:45:25,040
further back in time

2358
01:45:28,790 --> 01:45:27,119
than what we're being told

2359
01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:28,800
then i would look at that as something

2360
01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:30,960
positive because it shows how resilient

2361
01:45:34,950 --> 01:45:33,040
and how awesome we are that we've been

2362
01:45:36,550 --> 01:45:34,960
around for longer than what the

2363
01:45:39,030 --> 01:45:36,560
mainstream suggests

2364
01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:39,040
and not that they're mainstream you know

2365
01:45:43,910 --> 01:45:41,760
they're not doing anything wrong man

2366
01:45:45,830 --> 01:45:43,920
it's just that that is the that is the

2367
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:45,840
you know card the house of cards that

2368
01:45:50,629 --> 01:45:48,000
they've established and they're all

2369
01:45:52,629 --> 01:45:50,639
there are only a few things that i

2370
01:45:54,149 --> 01:45:52,639
personally am suggesting was a bit

2371
01:45:58,470 --> 01:45:54,159
different that we've had teachers in the

2372
01:46:00,470 --> 01:45:58,480
past but that you know uh that certain

2373
01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:00,480
things in history did not happen i mean

2374
01:46:05,830 --> 01:46:03,520
that's absolutely ridiculous so you know

2375
01:46:08,229 --> 01:46:05,840
just because i suggest that we've had

2376
01:46:11,189 --> 01:46:08,239
help from from extraterrestrials does

2377
01:46:14,470 --> 01:46:11,199
not mean that at the same time i also

2378
01:46:16,629 --> 01:46:14,480
subscribe to outrageous uh uh

2379
01:46:19,830 --> 01:46:16,639
propositions such as that the earth is

2380
01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:19,840
flat i mean it's it's just you know it

2381
01:46:22,149 --> 01:46:20,719
it's

2382
01:46:24,229 --> 01:46:22,159
strange to me

2383
01:46:27,189 --> 01:46:24,239
that one would equate the ancient

2384
01:46:29,109 --> 01:46:27,199
astronaut theory with the theory of of

2385
01:46:31,510 --> 01:46:29,119
people that talk about you know the the

2386
01:46:33,910 --> 01:46:31,520
the earth is flat i mean

2387
01:46:35,990 --> 01:46:33,920
they're so far removed from each other

2388
01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:36,000
they're not even in the same

2389
01:46:42,070 --> 01:46:39,199
galaxy they're in different universes

2390
01:46:45,590 --> 01:46:42,080
there i said it wait wait wait wait what

2391
01:46:48,709 --> 01:46:47,350
wait a minute georgio

2392
01:46:50,390 --> 01:46:48,719
hold on a minute

2393
01:46:53,109 --> 01:46:50,400
okay ah

2394
01:46:55,430 --> 01:46:53,119
okay here we go here we go fact check

2395
01:46:56,870 --> 01:46:55,440
i'm now banned from the show here we go

2396
01:46:59,910 --> 01:46:56,880
are you ready for this

2397
01:47:02,310 --> 01:46:59,920
the story of luthanza

2398
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:02,320
the famed german carrier's experience

2399
01:47:06,830 --> 01:47:05,040
with the boeing 747 began 42 years ago

2400
01:47:10,310 --> 01:47:06,840
on april 26

2401
01:47:12,070 --> 01:47:10,320
1970. inaugurated the boeing 747 service

2402
01:47:14,390 --> 01:47:12,080
operating from frankfurt to new york's

2403
01:47:17,830 --> 01:47:14,400
john f kennedy airport according to

2404
01:47:19,109 --> 01:47:17,840
lufthansa the jumbo inaugural flight

2405
01:47:22,870 --> 01:47:19,119
featured

2406
01:47:25,510 --> 01:47:22,880
the first film to be shown on that 747

2407
01:47:27,590 --> 01:47:25,520
was chariots of the gods there you go

2408
01:47:29,750 --> 01:47:27,600
all right so it was frankfort to new

2409
01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:29,760
york okay yeah well that would make

2410
01:47:33,109 --> 01:47:30,880
sense

2411
01:47:35,109 --> 01:47:33,119
man that's uh that that's a pretty good

2412
01:47:36,629 --> 01:47:35,119
feather in the hat right there

2413
01:47:38,709 --> 01:47:36,639
that's it yeah

2414
01:47:41,510 --> 01:47:38,719
pretty pretty awesome what a what a you

2415
01:47:42,790 --> 01:47:41,520
know trippy movie you gotta be in the

2416
01:47:44,790 --> 01:47:42,800
air

2417
01:47:46,550 --> 01:47:44,800
you're gonna tell eric it was lufthansa

2418
01:47:49,350 --> 01:47:46,560
eric's gonna go oh i thought it was pan

2419
01:47:51,510 --> 01:47:49,360
am it was such a fond memory it wasn't

2420
01:47:53,189 --> 01:47:51,520
pan am no it wasn't eric it was

2421
01:47:55,669 --> 01:47:53,199
lufthansa

2422
01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:55,679
all right now i'll let him know now what

2423
01:48:00,629 --> 01:47:58,000
do we do why

2424
01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:00,639
when when we consider

2425
01:48:05,590 --> 01:48:04,000
7 000 years before giza right we're not

2426
01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:05,600
talking about weeks or months we're

2427
01:48:10,550 --> 01:48:08,080
talking about seven thousand years

2428
01:48:14,550 --> 01:48:10,560
and the scidico beckley tepe

2429
01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:14,560
is just as elegant and beautiful as any

2430
01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:17,280
megalithic site ever but it predates

2431
01:48:22,629 --> 01:48:20,080
everything by 7 000 years and that

2432
01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:22,639
didn't make headlines like it should

2433
01:48:26,149 --> 01:48:23,520
have

2434
01:48:27,750 --> 01:48:26,159
because human history was just rewritten

2435
01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:27,760
what are we going to do if we find a

2436
01:48:33,510 --> 01:48:32,480
site that is 15 20 25 000 years old or

2437
01:48:36,149 --> 01:48:33,520
older

2438
01:48:39,350 --> 01:48:36,159
is this going to be enough to make

2439
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:39,360
headlines and say hey things aren't what

2440
01:48:44,149 --> 01:48:42,159
we understood or what we've been taught

2441
01:48:47,669 --> 01:48:44,159
what what's it going to do with hope so

2442
01:48:50,709 --> 01:48:47,679
i would hope so and and we don't have

2443
01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:50,719
another another choice but it it it all

2444
01:48:54,390 --> 01:48:52,560
this takes time

2445
01:48:56,709 --> 01:48:54,400
and you know because

2446
01:48:58,550 --> 01:48:56,719
when when i had when we filmed the uh

2447
01:49:01,030 --> 01:48:58,560
the egypt special which aired a couple

2448
01:49:03,189 --> 01:49:01,040
of years ago with rami romani

2449
01:49:06,229 --> 01:49:03,199
and we had that one segment where we

2450
01:49:07,910 --> 01:49:06,239
interviewed zai hawas in between the

2451
01:49:09,830 --> 01:49:07,920
paws of the sphinx

2452
01:49:12,149 --> 01:49:09,840
you know you when when you're out there

2453
01:49:14,790 --> 01:49:12,159
filming you you have a lot of down time

2454
01:49:17,510 --> 01:49:14,800
often and you you just sit around and

2455
01:49:19,350 --> 01:49:17,520
you start talking to each other and so i

2456
01:49:21,990 --> 01:49:19,360
had a good

2457
01:49:25,830 --> 01:49:22,000
three four hours that i had

2458
01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:25,840
private time with zai hawas and

2459
01:49:31,270 --> 01:49:29,440
you know i i have to say that i've

2460
01:49:33,270 --> 01:49:31,280
changed my opinion where in the past i

2461
01:49:36,629 --> 01:49:33,280
always thought that he was sort of

2462
01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:36,639
you know anti-us and anti-you know what

2463
01:49:41,109 --> 01:49:38,560
we kind of propose but you know in this

2464
01:49:43,189 --> 01:49:41,119
conversation that i had with him

2465
01:49:44,470 --> 01:49:43,199
it was very simple and that was that he

2466
01:49:46,149 --> 01:49:44,480
said that

2467
01:49:48,790 --> 01:49:46,159
he wishes

2468
01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:48,800
that our ideas or our propositions like

2469
01:49:53,350 --> 01:49:51,280
robert bovale suggesting with the sphinx

2470
01:49:55,109 --> 01:49:53,360
and the position of the pyramids and the

2471
01:49:57,750 --> 01:49:55,119
position of the sinks and how all that

2472
01:50:00,470 --> 01:49:57,760
is a one big giant complex and he was

2473
01:50:03,350 --> 01:50:00,480
built to in order to show that this goes

2474
01:50:06,870 --> 01:50:03,360
back to twelve thousand five hundred bc

2475
01:50:07,750 --> 01:50:06,880
he says he wishes that propositions like

2476
01:50:11,830 --> 01:50:07,760
that

2477
01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:11,840
are correct because he would have

2478
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:13,679
he would love to show the world that

2479
01:50:18,229 --> 01:50:16,480
egypt is 12 000 years old but then he

2480
01:50:21,350 --> 01:50:18,239
said and i quote

2481
01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:21,360
the forensic evidence that we apparently

2482
01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:23,040
put forward

2483
01:50:28,310 --> 01:50:27,360
is not strong enough for him

2484
01:50:31,589 --> 01:50:28,320
okay

2485
01:50:34,470 --> 01:50:31,599
so if he thinks that the evidence that

2486
01:50:37,669 --> 01:50:34,480
robert boval has brought forward which

2487
01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:37,679
in my opinion is solid because it is

2488
01:50:44,550 --> 01:50:42,480
actually set in stone as monuments so

2489
01:50:46,310 --> 01:50:44,560
it's pretty forensic it's pretty you

2490
01:50:49,030 --> 01:50:46,320
know heavy

2491
01:50:51,830 --> 01:50:49,040
so yeah that is not heavy sorry if that

2492
01:50:54,229 --> 01:50:51,840
is not good enough for zai

2493
01:50:56,709 --> 01:50:54,239
i can't change his brain

2494
01:51:01,350 --> 01:50:56,719
if that is what he thinks

2495
01:51:04,629 --> 01:51:01,360
we must accept that and in fact we must

2496
01:51:07,350 --> 01:51:04,639
get better we must find even more

2497
01:51:10,229 --> 01:51:07,360
arguments and better arguments that

2498
01:51:13,430 --> 01:51:10,239
actually would back up the robert bovale

2499
01:51:15,990 --> 01:51:13,440
orion theory and not back off and say

2500
01:51:18,149 --> 01:51:16,000
okay well if he does not accept the

2501
01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:18,159
orion theory then the whole thing is

2502
01:51:22,790 --> 01:51:21,440
wrong no it's not we he says he wants

2503
01:51:26,310 --> 01:51:22,800
more proof

2504
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:26,320
because which to me means he is

2505
01:51:30,310 --> 01:51:28,960
on the fence

2506
01:51:31,589 --> 01:51:30,320
well um

2507
01:51:33,270 --> 01:51:31,599
okay

2508
01:51:35,430 --> 01:51:33,280
i'm not going to

2509
01:51:39,430 --> 01:51:35,440
uh because it's kind of easy

2510
01:51:40,629 --> 01:51:39,440
to to go at uh hawas all right

2511
01:51:45,910 --> 01:51:40,639
he's

2512
01:51:49,589 --> 01:51:45,920
other thing exactly right right exactly

2513
01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:49,599
but uh five years ago uh and i know you

2514
01:51:54,149 --> 01:51:51,280
remember this there was this famous

2515
01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:54,159
exchange that was on video of of zahi

2516
01:51:58,870 --> 01:51:57,119
and graham hancock when zahi says to

2517
01:52:00,070 --> 01:51:58,880
graham and they're talking about robert

2518
01:52:01,510 --> 01:52:00,080
baval

2519
01:52:04,470 --> 01:52:01,520
um and

2520
01:52:05,830 --> 01:52:04,480
and go back lee tapi and zahi said he

2521
01:52:08,390 --> 01:52:05,840
had never heard

2522
01:52:11,270 --> 01:52:08,400
of go back and teppy now wait a minute

2523
01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:11,280
here we all know that he has

2524
01:52:15,510 --> 01:52:13,679
there's no i actually i actually i i may

2525
01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:15,520
i may actually look

2526
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:17,440
this is this is what i was alluding to

2527
01:52:24,870 --> 01:52:21,040
earlier that oftentimes

2528
01:52:27,910 --> 01:52:24,880
kasaihi specializes in ancient egypt he

2529
01:52:31,589 --> 01:52:27,920
he wakes up in the morning he breathes

2530
01:52:32,790 --> 01:52:31,599
eats and sleeps ancient egypt

2531
01:52:36,550 --> 01:52:32,800
and

2532
01:52:38,310 --> 01:52:36,560
i've had personal experiences with

2533
01:52:40,790 --> 01:52:38,320
university

2534
01:52:42,950 --> 01:52:40,800
archaeologists who are practicing

2535
01:52:45,430 --> 01:52:42,960
archaeologists at university with

2536
01:52:48,310 --> 01:52:45,440
lecturing and with excavations

2537
01:52:49,750 --> 01:52:48,320
and i often would point out these

2538
01:52:52,229 --> 01:52:49,760
similarities

2539
01:52:54,390 --> 01:52:52,239
and it would be met with wonder and

2540
01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:54,400
excitement as in

2541
01:53:00,709 --> 01:52:58,800
holy crap really i had no idea so the

2542
01:53:02,470 --> 01:53:00,719
fact that zaiha was even though you know

2543
01:53:04,229 --> 01:53:02,480
with the whole robert shock connection

2544
01:53:07,430 --> 01:53:04,239
and the sphinx and all this that he

2545
01:53:09,430 --> 01:53:07,440
would not know about gobekli tepe after

2546
01:53:11,350 --> 01:53:09,440
everything that happened with lerner and

2547
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:11,360
then the the press conference where

2548
01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:14,320
robert shock actually proposed that this

2549
01:53:18,790 --> 01:53:16,320
was twelve thousand years old you know

2550
01:53:23,430 --> 01:53:20,950
it still

2551
01:53:25,270 --> 01:53:23,440
would not surprise me because they live

2552
01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:25,280
in their bubble right and that's what

2553
01:53:30,709 --> 01:53:27,280
the ancient astronaut theory does that

2554
01:53:32,629 --> 01:53:30,719
we do we draw these comparison

2555
01:53:34,709 --> 01:53:32,639
we are the ones that make the

2556
01:53:36,390 --> 01:53:34,719
comparisons and the fact that the

2557
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:36,400
archaeologists

2558
01:53:41,030 --> 01:53:37,520
you know

2559
01:53:43,750 --> 01:53:41,040
completely

2560
01:53:48,550 --> 01:53:43,760
against us is because

2561
01:53:52,149 --> 01:53:48,560
they too know that these parallels exist

2562
01:53:55,830 --> 01:53:52,159
and after a while even coincidence

2563
01:53:57,830 --> 01:53:55,840
no longer satisfies the initial question

2564
01:53:59,669 --> 01:53:57,840
how is it possible that we have all

2565
01:54:02,470 --> 01:53:59,679
these similarities if it's just

2566
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:02,480
coincidence forget it and and we're all

2567
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:04,560
working on the same team here

2568
01:54:08,790 --> 01:54:06,880
right and and i mean really i mean

2569
01:54:11,510 --> 01:54:08,800
what's what's wrong with suggesting that

2570
01:54:12,950 --> 01:54:11,520
our ancestors have been around longer

2571
01:54:16,390 --> 01:54:12,960
than what we think i mean it would be an

2572
01:54:19,109 --> 01:54:16,400
amazing realization

2573
01:54:22,470 --> 01:54:19,119
one supports the other and that includes

2574
01:54:25,669 --> 01:54:22,480
i'll go back to pumu puku for example um

2575
01:54:28,229 --> 01:54:25,679
all of this supports uh everything else

2576
01:54:30,229 --> 01:54:28,239
and we need to continuously examine that

2577
01:54:33,589 --> 01:54:30,239
and think outside of the box

2578
01:54:35,270 --> 01:54:33,599
and uh to to think otherwise and i'm not

2579
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:35,280
in any way

2580
01:54:39,990 --> 01:54:36,800
uh

2581
01:54:43,030 --> 01:54:40,000
attacking zahi like i said he's an easy

2582
01:54:45,589 --> 01:54:43,040
enough target no but he should embrace

2583
01:54:46,310 --> 01:54:45,599
gobekli tapi and here's my question to

2584
01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:46,320
you

2585
01:54:55,109 --> 01:54:52,000
egyptologists themselves

2586
01:54:56,149 --> 01:54:55,119
starting to change are they starting to

2587
01:54:57,910 --> 01:54:56,159
look at

2588
01:55:01,510 --> 01:54:57,920
uh things a little bit differently and

2589
01:55:05,750 --> 01:55:03,589
i think i think you know

2590
01:55:07,030 --> 01:55:05,760
if there's new archaeol egyptologists

2591
01:55:09,510 --> 01:55:07,040
coming along

2592
01:55:11,589 --> 01:55:09,520
um that may look at these ancient

2593
01:55:14,149 --> 01:55:11,599
stories and ancient artifacts from a bit

2594
01:55:16,390 --> 01:55:14,159
of a different perspective that that

2595
01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:16,400
could be you know because to me

2596
01:55:19,669 --> 01:55:18,000
the thing was always that i wanted to

2597
01:55:22,629 --> 01:55:19,679
bring the ancient astronauts theory to

2598
01:55:24,470 --> 01:55:22,639
the masses and through ancient aliens

2599
01:55:25,669 --> 01:55:24,480
that certainly has happened and back in

2600
01:55:28,629 --> 01:55:25,679
the day

2601
01:55:30,310 --> 01:55:28,639
when jurassic park first came out

2602
01:55:32,870 --> 01:55:30,320
years later

2603
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:32,880
paleontology at universities that the

2604
01:55:38,229 --> 01:55:35,840
signing up of students for paleontology

2605
01:55:39,510 --> 01:55:38,239
went up by 5 000 or some crazy

2606
01:55:42,229 --> 01:55:39,520
percentage

2607
01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:42,239
and you know hopefully through people

2608
01:55:46,470 --> 01:55:44,320
having been inspired to watch ancient

2609
01:55:48,470 --> 01:55:46,480
aliens they will sign up to become

2610
01:55:50,629 --> 01:55:48,480
anthropologists and they will sign up to

2611
01:55:54,229 --> 01:55:50,639
become archaeologists

2612
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:54,239
with this new perspective that perhaps

2613
01:56:00,550 --> 01:55:57,040
some of these ancient stories should be

2614
01:56:02,950 --> 01:56:00,560
read from a modern perspective

2615
01:56:04,470 --> 01:56:02,960
where you know if we have ancient

2616
01:56:07,430 --> 01:56:04,480
stories of

2617
01:56:09,990 --> 01:56:07,440
some vehicle or some

2618
01:56:14,229 --> 01:56:10,000
monster descending from the sky with

2619
01:56:17,350 --> 01:56:14,239
smoke and fire and blinking eyes or

2620
01:56:19,189 --> 01:56:17,360
doors on on the face well animals don't

2621
01:56:22,149 --> 01:56:19,199
have blinking eyes and animals don't

2622
01:56:23,750 --> 01:56:22,159
have doors on their faces you know

2623
01:56:26,470 --> 01:56:23,760
unless one of course didn't suggest oh

2624
01:56:29,589 --> 01:56:26,480
it's just you know the the snout or the

2625
01:56:32,310 --> 01:56:29,599
mouth of the animal no in leviathan it

2626
01:56:35,270 --> 01:56:32,320
actually says in the book of job

2627
01:56:36,950 --> 01:56:35,280
chapter 41 that he had leviathan the

2628
01:56:40,550 --> 01:56:36,960
behemoth had

2629
01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:40,560
bright doors on his face and blinking

2630
01:56:46,390 --> 01:56:42,800
red lights and

2631
01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:46,400
columns of fire coming out of the front

2632
01:56:49,830 --> 01:56:47,920
so um

2633
01:56:52,790 --> 01:56:49,840
could be a dragon by the way it could be

2634
01:56:54,950 --> 01:56:52,800
a drawing could be a dragon

2635
01:56:59,270 --> 01:56:54,960
well that's and that's the whole idea

2636
01:57:01,430 --> 01:56:59,280
that even the motifs for dragons

2637
01:57:04,709 --> 01:57:01,440
from the ancient astronaut perspective

2638
01:57:07,030 --> 01:57:04,719
that i represent i would suggest that

2639
01:57:09,030 --> 01:57:07,040
biological dragons

2640
01:57:12,709 --> 01:57:09,040
really did not exist but that they were

2641
01:57:15,510 --> 01:57:12,719
some form of misinterpreted technology

2642
01:57:17,270 --> 01:57:15,520
that came in the form of some

2643
01:57:20,390 --> 01:57:17,280
dragon like

2644
01:57:22,950 --> 01:57:20,400
thing that looked like a dragon but over

2645
01:57:26,070 --> 01:57:22,960
the years or over the decades if not

2646
01:57:28,550 --> 01:57:26,080
generations these stories of seeing

2647
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:28,560
something technological in origin

2648
01:57:35,510 --> 01:57:31,840
turned into myth and and legend

2649
01:57:37,109 --> 01:57:35,520
thinking of the people that it was oh a

2650
01:57:40,390 --> 01:57:37,119
machine that could have never been

2651
01:57:44,070 --> 01:57:40,400
possible it must have been some type of

2652
01:57:45,830 --> 01:57:44,080
uh biological entity now last exactly

2653
01:57:48,310 --> 01:57:45,840
and the dragons are out there in too

2654
01:57:50,550 --> 01:57:48,320
many cultures way before you know

2655
01:57:55,030 --> 01:57:50,560
dinosaurs were discovered in the 1800s

2656
01:57:57,270 --> 01:57:55,040
uh fossils um last friday um and talking

2657
01:58:00,149 --> 01:57:57,280
about going back and revisiting

2658
01:58:02,550 --> 01:58:00,159
um uh especially with the new

2659
01:58:04,790 --> 01:58:02,560
generations of anthropologists and and

2660
01:58:06,550 --> 01:58:04,800
historians that are that are

2661
01:58:08,790 --> 01:58:06,560
coming into the fold

2662
01:58:10,149 --> 01:58:08,800
last friday on ancient aliens you guys

2663
01:58:11,109 --> 01:58:10,159
went back

2664
01:58:14,470 --> 01:58:11,119
and

2665
01:58:16,790 --> 01:58:14,480
started to look at uh what is beneath uh

2666
01:58:19,189 --> 01:58:16,800
temples around the world

2667
01:58:21,350 --> 01:58:19,199
is that something that uh well it's

2668
01:58:22,950 --> 01:58:21,360
presented here in ancient aliens but

2669
01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:22,960
that we can't take everything for

2670
01:58:28,229 --> 01:58:25,599
granted that we should go back and

2671
01:58:31,510 --> 01:58:28,239
revisit and examine not only these sites

2672
01:58:34,149 --> 01:58:31,520
but what may be underneath them

2673
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:34,159
absolutely in fact this is not not too

2674
01:58:38,310 --> 01:58:35,920
long ago i think it was three or four

2675
01:58:40,709 --> 01:58:38,320
years ago they discovered an entire new

2676
01:58:44,149 --> 01:58:40,719
ring underneath stonehenge that was

2677
01:58:46,470 --> 01:58:44,159
completely buried and so you know many

2678
01:58:49,189 --> 01:58:46,480
of the most enigmatic sites that we have

2679
01:58:50,470 --> 01:58:49,199
on earth were built on

2680
01:58:53,750 --> 01:58:50,480
places

2681
01:58:57,270 --> 01:58:53,760
in which legend says or or local

2682
01:59:01,510 --> 01:58:59,030
mythologies or

2683
01:59:03,990 --> 01:59:01,520
the chronology of those places suggest

2684
01:59:07,030 --> 01:59:04,000
that celestial events

2685
01:59:09,990 --> 01:59:07,040
happened at those particular places so

2686
01:59:11,830 --> 01:59:10,000
in balbeck we have the reason why that

2687
01:59:14,709 --> 01:59:11,840
platform there was built was because it

2688
01:59:18,709 --> 01:59:14,719
was dedicated to the god baal which was

2689
01:59:21,910 --> 01:59:18,719
a celestial deity in the form of the sun

2690
01:59:23,669 --> 01:59:21,920
it was the sun god but at the same time

2691
01:59:26,709 --> 01:59:23,679
you see baal in many of these

2692
01:59:28,709 --> 01:59:26,719
descriptions sitting or writing a

2693
01:59:31,589 --> 01:59:28,719
chariot now many of those descriptions

2694
01:59:32,629 --> 01:59:31,599
are of course roman because they built

2695
01:59:34,870 --> 01:59:32,639
the the

2696
01:59:36,629 --> 01:59:34,880
the big columns but the base at the

2697
01:59:39,510 --> 01:59:36,639
bottom is

2698
01:59:42,310 --> 01:59:39,520
anonymous and no carvings of who built

2699
01:59:43,830 --> 01:59:42,320
it and when and then you have the temple

2700
01:59:46,310 --> 01:59:43,840
mount in

2701
01:59:49,350 --> 01:59:46,320
in jerusalem there too you have

2702
01:59:51,830 --> 01:59:49,360
megalithic construction and also

2703
01:59:53,990 --> 01:59:51,840
as we know from all the big religious

2704
01:59:57,430 --> 01:59:54,000
texts from around the world we have

2705
01:59:58,629 --> 01:59:57,440
celestial events happening uh in in

2706
02:00:00,550 --> 01:59:58,639
jerusalem

2707
02:00:03,270 --> 02:00:00,560
and then you have

2708
02:00:05,750 --> 02:00:03,280
delphi celestial events happened at

2709
02:00:08,629 --> 02:00:05,760
delphi it is written in the ancient

2710
02:00:11,910 --> 02:00:08,639
greek texts of delphi that apollo

2711
02:00:14,870 --> 02:00:11,920
descended from the sky in a flying fiery

2712
02:00:16,390 --> 02:00:14,880
chariot then on easter island you have

2713
02:00:20,070 --> 02:00:16,400
similar stories

2714
02:00:23,430 --> 02:00:20,080
um you know worldwide you have stories

2715
02:00:25,669 --> 02:00:23,440
of of people descending from the sky

2716
02:00:28,870 --> 02:00:25,679
what what what else

2717
02:00:31,109 --> 02:00:28,880
it wasn't and and i i need to make an

2718
02:00:33,830 --> 02:00:31,119
announcement uh let me get this out of

2719
02:00:36,550 --> 02:00:33,840
the way uh before the show giorgio said

2720
02:00:38,790 --> 02:00:36,560
jimmy i want to take phone calls

2721
02:00:40,550 --> 02:00:38,800
i said you do you said we're i'm talking

2722
02:00:43,270 --> 02:00:40,560
to the fader knots tonight

2723
02:00:45,430 --> 02:00:43,280
so i'm making that announcement now uh

2724
02:00:47,270 --> 02:00:45,440
the calls are going to start to come in

2725
02:00:48,629 --> 02:00:47,280
seven four seven two two eight two zero

2726
02:00:52,870 --> 02:00:48,639
five one

2727
02:00:54,709 --> 02:00:52,880
and uh and and be ready and be prepared

2728
02:00:56,470 --> 02:00:54,719
and then we'll take some calls uh right

2729
02:00:59,109 --> 02:00:56,480
after the break but this is the thing

2730
02:01:01,030 --> 02:00:59,119
with all of those uh statements from

2731
02:01:02,709 --> 02:01:01,040
cultures around the world georgia it's

2732
02:01:05,270 --> 02:01:02,719
not imagination

2733
02:01:07,750 --> 02:01:05,280
they are trying to put into words and

2734
02:01:09,350 --> 02:01:07,760
document in the historical record

2735
02:01:12,470 --> 02:01:09,360
what they were seeing

2736
02:01:14,629 --> 02:01:12,480
and words are difficult to come up with

2737
02:01:16,629 --> 02:01:14,639
right and they could only describe it in

2738
02:01:18,790 --> 02:01:16,639
the best way that they knew but they

2739
02:01:20,790 --> 02:01:18,800
were seeing something and they wanted

2740
02:01:23,270 --> 02:01:20,800
everybody to know about it there isn't

2741
02:01:26,390 --> 02:01:23,280
another way to look at it is there

2742
02:01:27,589 --> 02:01:26,400
because it was so out of the ordinary

2743
02:01:30,870 --> 02:01:27,599
right uh

2744
02:01:32,550 --> 02:01:30,880
because you know they our ancestors knew

2745
02:01:33,589 --> 02:01:32,560
that the sun

2746
02:01:34,950 --> 02:01:33,599
was

2747
02:01:36,870 --> 02:01:34,960
you know

2748
02:01:39,510 --> 02:01:36,880
our ancestors knew that the sun would

2749
02:01:41,669 --> 02:01:39,520
come up in the east and set in the west

2750
02:01:43,589 --> 02:01:41,679
and he would go over this arch but then

2751
02:01:45,589 --> 02:01:43,599
you have stories of the sun all of a

2752
02:01:48,950 --> 02:01:45,599
sudden descending from the sky and

2753
02:01:50,629 --> 02:01:48,960
instructing people or a sun god doing

2754
02:01:54,790 --> 02:01:50,639
this and

2755
02:01:59,510 --> 02:01:57,750
observant in telling in their stories

2756
02:02:01,669 --> 02:01:59,520
that guys

2757
02:02:04,950 --> 02:02:01,679
this was not the sun

2758
02:02:06,070 --> 02:02:04,960
it came from the sun it came from the

2759
02:02:08,709 --> 02:02:06,080
sky

2760
02:02:10,070 --> 02:02:08,719
and you know it may have been you know

2761
02:02:12,709 --> 02:02:10,080
the vehicle or whatever may have been

2762
02:02:15,189 --> 02:02:12,719
bright but it certainly was not the sun

2763
02:02:16,390 --> 02:02:15,199
that's why they always refer to looking

2764
02:02:22,070 --> 02:02:16,400
something

2765
02:02:26,229 --> 02:02:22,080
like the sun or like a bird or like a

2766
02:02:27,830 --> 02:02:26,239
shield or like an orb when they knew

2767
02:02:30,390 --> 02:02:27,840
that um

2768
02:02:33,030 --> 02:02:30,400
hey our shields that we have here right

2769
02:02:35,990 --> 02:02:33,040
now that i'm holding in my hands

2770
02:02:37,910 --> 02:02:36,000
that doesn't fly it if i toss it up in

2771
02:02:40,629 --> 02:02:37,920
the sky yeah it'll fly for a couple of

2772
02:02:43,270 --> 02:02:40,639
seconds but then it'll crash

2773
02:02:46,390 --> 02:02:43,280
so for them to describe you know flying

2774
02:02:48,470 --> 02:02:46,400
shields or native americans have often

2775
02:02:51,589 --> 02:02:48,480
described um

2776
02:02:53,750 --> 02:02:51,599
flying icicles up in the sky

2777
02:02:54,629 --> 02:02:53,760
well if you look at a plane crossing the

2778
02:02:57,830 --> 02:02:54,639
sky

2779
02:03:02,070 --> 02:02:57,840
and you don't have the the the words for

2780
02:03:03,109 --> 02:03:02,080
it a flying icicle is very close to what

2781
02:03:07,350 --> 02:03:03,119
you see

2782
02:03:10,149 --> 02:03:07,360
when a plane crosses the sky a jet plane

2783
02:03:14,629 --> 02:03:12,550
this idea that you know

2784
02:03:17,669 --> 02:03:14,639
when our ancestors said that they saw

2785
02:03:18,870 --> 02:03:17,679
flying lotus flowers that they actually

2786
02:03:22,790 --> 02:03:18,880
saw

2787
02:03:26,070 --> 02:03:22,800
flying lotus flowers see that to me

2788
02:03:29,910 --> 02:03:26,080
is the insult in our ancestors uh

2789
02:03:31,910 --> 02:03:29,920
record keeping and and reporting because

2790
02:03:34,790 --> 02:03:31,920
i don't care

2791
02:03:37,109 --> 02:03:34,800
what where what planet or or

2792
02:03:38,390 --> 02:03:37,119
what part of the planet you're you're on

2793
02:03:41,189 --> 02:03:38,400
here on earth

2794
02:03:43,990 --> 02:03:41,199
lotus flowers don't fly

2795
02:03:47,270 --> 02:03:44,000
so you know but that we have stories

2796
02:03:50,069 --> 02:03:47,280
that they have seen objects in the sky

2797
02:03:53,030 --> 02:03:50,079
of gigantic lotus flowers and then

2798
02:03:54,950 --> 02:03:53,040
descending and them opening up and then

2799
02:03:57,510 --> 02:03:54,960
people walking out of it

2800
02:03:59,910 --> 02:03:57,520
and it looked like a lotus flower

2801
02:04:02,390 --> 02:03:59,920
that to me is interesting because what

2802
02:04:04,550 --> 02:04:02,400
the heck did they try to describe yeah

2803
02:04:07,350 --> 02:04:04,560
exactly and just like you said earlier

2804
02:04:09,830 --> 02:04:07,360
right uh with ed grimsley you saw a

2805
02:04:10,550 --> 02:04:09,840
triangle sounds like a flying shield to

2806
02:04:13,669 --> 02:04:10,560
me

2807
02:04:15,910 --> 02:04:13,679
georgio there you go exactly let's let's

2808
02:04:17,109 --> 02:04:15,920
take our break right here this is fade

2809
02:04:19,589 --> 02:04:17,119
to black i'm yours to be church i'm

2810
02:04:21,990 --> 02:04:19,599
going to be taking your phone calls next

2811
02:04:23,589 --> 02:04:22,000
with giorgio after this short break

2812
02:04:25,430 --> 02:04:23,599
seven four seven

2813
02:04:28,110 --> 02:04:25,440
two

2814
02:04:36,550 --> 02:04:28,120
stay right there this is fade to black

2815
02:04:43,590 --> 02:04:37,910
hi everybody this is rob halpert the

2816
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2817
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2821
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2822
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2823
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2824
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creatures and more just like kunx db

2825
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2826
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phenomena visit

2827
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www.unexmedia.com to see our list of

2828
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2829
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2830
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2831
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2832
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2833
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2834
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2835
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2836
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2837
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2838
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2839
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2840
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2841
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2842
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2843
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2844
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2846
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2847
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2848
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dough anymore anyway if you're looking

2849
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for short helpful health tips go to

2850
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2851
02:06:14,229 --> 02:06:13,040
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2852
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2853
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2854
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2855
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2856
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2857
02:06:30,149 --> 02:06:26,800
this is jimmy church of fade to black

2858
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2859
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2860
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2861
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2862
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2863
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2864
02:06:47,670 --> 02:06:46,149
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2865
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make contact

2866
02:06:53,350 --> 02:06:51,599
[Music]

2867
02:06:56,390 --> 02:06:53,360
when you're in the house for longer

2868
02:06:58,870 --> 02:06:56,400
periods of time you can see them flying

2869
02:07:00,550 --> 02:06:58,880
or running across the floor

2870
02:07:03,830 --> 02:07:00,560
ooh yuck

2871
02:07:08,069 --> 02:07:03,840
they're unhealthy gross and disgusting

2872
02:07:11,270 --> 02:07:08,079
bugs i loathe bugs we keep a clean home

2873
02:07:13,270 --> 02:07:11,280
but occasionally bugs show up well i

2874
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found something that is tougher than

2875
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bugs orange guard on contact it kills

2876
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2877
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fleas plus orange guard is a residual

2878
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2879
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orange guard are on the fda generally

2880
02:07:33,430 --> 02:07:31,119
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2881
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orange guard may be used around food

2882
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2883
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2884
02:07:44,149 --> 02:07:40,400
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2885
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2886
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2887
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2888
02:07:52,870 --> 02:07:50,159
gold loves chaos uncertainty and

2889
02:07:54,790 --> 02:07:52,880
disarray history shows us what gold does

2890
02:07:56,629 --> 02:07:54,800
when people aren't sure aren't sure

2891
02:07:59,430 --> 02:07:56,639
about the government the stock market

2892
02:08:02,149 --> 02:07:59,440
their jobs or their retirement savings

2893
02:08:04,069 --> 02:08:02,159
our national debt is skyrocketing gold

2894
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and other precious metals are a defense

2895
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2896
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2897
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2898
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2899
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2900
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2901
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2908
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or visit unitedgoldgroup.com

2909
02:09:01,750 --> 02:08:57,910
you want to know a secret

2910
02:09:03,030 --> 02:09:01,760
i love ponies i really love ponies i'm

2911
02:09:05,270 --> 02:09:03,040
serious

2912
02:09:06,629 --> 02:09:05,280
i couldn't stay sane without pulling mr

2913
02:09:08,709 --> 02:09:06,639
brush

2914
02:09:15,189 --> 02:09:08,719
why fade to black

2915
02:09:21,210 --> 02:09:17,430
this is fade to black with jimmy church

2916
02:09:33,830 --> 02:09:21,220
on the game changer radio network

2917
02:09:35,669 --> 02:09:33,840
[Music]

2918
02:09:38,470 --> 02:09:35,679
welcome back fade to black i am your

2919
02:09:39,750 --> 02:09:38,480
host jimmy church

2920
02:09:42,390 --> 02:09:39,760
tomorrow night

2921
02:09:43,910 --> 02:09:42,400
live is fader night open lines all night

2922
02:09:45,669 --> 02:09:43,920
long

2923
02:09:48,069 --> 02:09:45,679
that'll be tomorrow tonight giorgio

2924
02:09:50,470 --> 02:09:48,079
suclose is with us and

2925
02:09:53,109 --> 02:09:50,480
uh earlier giorgio said to me i want the

2926
02:09:56,310 --> 02:09:53,119
full fate or not experience tonight man

2927
02:09:58,310 --> 02:09:56,320
we got to take some calls i said

2928
02:10:00,629 --> 02:09:58,320
you said yes and so we're going to do

2929
02:10:04,390 --> 02:10:00,639
just that are you ready

2930
02:10:10,390 --> 02:10:07,430
i love it and see this is the thing

2931
02:10:13,669 --> 02:10:10,400
and i want everybody to know um this was

2932
02:10:15,589 --> 02:10:13,679
uh quite a while ago but uh giorgio came

2933
02:10:18,390 --> 02:10:15,599
up to me and he said church man the

2934
02:10:20,550 --> 02:10:18,400
fader knots are amazing this is a

2935
02:10:22,470 --> 02:10:20,560
private conversation uh

2936
02:10:24,950 --> 02:10:22,480
you know this is this wasn't for

2937
02:10:27,910 --> 02:10:24,960
everybody but but it was just so much

2938
02:10:31,030 --> 02:10:27,920
fun for me uh to hear you say that uh

2939
02:10:34,069 --> 02:10:31,040
giorgio and uh this audience uh really

2940
02:10:36,709 --> 02:10:34,079
respects uh everything that you do but

2941
02:10:38,629 --> 02:10:36,719
it you have embraced the family here and

2942
02:10:41,270 --> 02:10:38,639
thank you for that

2943
02:10:43,430 --> 02:10:41,280
well and you guys you know have done an

2944
02:10:45,910 --> 02:10:43,440
amazing thing and you jimmy too i mean i

2945
02:10:48,149 --> 02:10:45,920
remember you starting out and the the

2946
02:10:50,390 --> 02:10:48,159
incredible audience and the show that

2947
02:10:53,510 --> 02:10:50,400
you've built up you can be

2948
02:10:55,830 --> 02:10:53,520
mighty proud of yourself man really i

2949
02:10:57,910 --> 02:10:55,840
mean i think that uh

2950
02:10:59,589 --> 02:10:57,920
your program is

2951
02:11:02,229 --> 02:10:59,599
in the top three

2952
02:11:06,310 --> 02:11:02,239
and i think the top three is called

2953
02:11:08,870 --> 02:11:06,320
jimmy church fate to black and f2b

2954
02:11:10,950 --> 02:11:08,880
those are my top three favorite shows

2955
02:11:12,950 --> 02:11:10,960
and i think you've heard of one of them

2956
02:11:14,390 --> 02:11:12,960
i appreciate that georgio are you ready

2957
02:11:17,350 --> 02:11:14,400
to do this

2958
02:11:18,950 --> 02:11:17,360
yes okay all you have to say giorgio is

2959
02:11:20,790 --> 02:11:18,960
you're live on fade to black who's

2960
02:11:22,629 --> 02:11:20,800
calling set

2961
02:11:26,149 --> 02:11:22,639
all right you're live and fate to black

2962
02:11:30,580 --> 02:11:29,270
you're live right now

2963
02:11:32,790 --> 02:11:30,590
oh hi georgio

2964
02:11:34,790 --> 02:11:32,800
[Laughter]

2965
02:11:38,069 --> 02:11:34,800
hello yeah you took him by surprise

2966
02:11:40,069 --> 02:11:38,079
giorgio okay who's calling uh yeah this

2967
02:11:42,310 --> 02:11:40,079
this is hi this is my new cesare how are

2968
02:11:43,589 --> 02:11:42,320
you guys uh we're doing great man uh

2969
02:11:45,750 --> 02:11:43,599
what's your what's your what's your

2970
02:11:48,550 --> 02:11:45,760
question for giorgio

2971
02:11:51,350 --> 02:11:48,560
this is my question i i'm curious about

2972
02:11:52,870 --> 02:11:51,360
what you think about bob lazar's claim

2973
02:11:54,550 --> 02:11:52,880
that one of the

2974
02:11:57,030 --> 02:11:54,560
crafts that

2975
02:11:59,430 --> 02:11:57,040
he heard about was found in an ancient

2976
02:12:02,390 --> 02:11:59,440
site do you have any idea what that

2977
02:12:03,990 --> 02:12:02,400
ancient site might be

2978
02:12:21,589 --> 02:12:04,000
i

2979
02:12:24,149 --> 02:12:21,599
there and

2980
02:12:27,189 --> 02:12:24,159
you know i would not be surprised

2981
02:12:30,709 --> 02:12:27,199
that the stories are you know

2982
02:12:31,589 --> 02:12:30,719
partially if not completely true because

2983
02:12:32,629 --> 02:12:31,599
um

2984
02:12:35,109 --> 02:12:32,639
you know

2985
02:12:37,750 --> 02:12:35,119
some of the items that lazar told us

2986
02:12:40,069 --> 02:12:37,760
about actually then turned out to be

2987
02:12:42,470 --> 02:12:40,079
you know factual so

2988
02:12:43,830 --> 02:12:42,480
this whole thing we are experiencing

2989
02:12:44,870 --> 02:12:43,840
right now

2990
02:12:47,669 --> 02:12:44,880
um

2991
02:12:49,430 --> 02:12:47,679
we are in in disclosure so you know i

2992
02:12:52,069 --> 02:12:49,440
think it's a wonderful time that we're

2993
02:12:54,709 --> 02:12:52,079
in are you from germany

2994
02:12:57,750 --> 02:12:54,719
i'm i'm half german yes

2995
02:12:59,669 --> 02:12:57,760
okay how would you know that georgio

2996
02:13:03,270 --> 02:12:59,679
yeah because we've met

2997
02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:07,750
no george georgia knows who i am

2998
02:13:13,109 --> 02:13:10,069
georgie okay you see georgios this is my

2999
02:13:14,830 --> 02:13:13,119
new this is my new this is my new gym

3000
02:13:18,310 --> 02:13:14,840
this is my new

3001
02:13:20,069 --> 02:13:18,320
georgio oh okay i did not yeah

3002
02:13:22,149 --> 02:13:20,079
by the way by the way uh i just saw

3003
02:13:24,069 --> 02:13:22,159
robert pouval i went to visit them and

3004
02:13:24,950 --> 02:13:24,079
they're doing great so sending their

3005
02:13:26,950 --> 02:13:24,960
lives

3006
02:13:28,069 --> 02:13:26,960
is he healthy again good good good

3007
02:13:29,750 --> 02:13:28,079
excellent

3008
02:13:30,629 --> 02:13:29,760
yeah yeah he's in good he's good spirits

3009
02:13:31,830 --> 02:13:30,639
yeah

3010
02:13:35,750 --> 02:13:31,840
my news

3011
02:13:37,270 --> 02:13:35,760
my new sneaking in and

3012
02:13:39,750 --> 02:13:37,280
well i thought i thought you got caller

3013
02:13:41,830 --> 02:13:39,760
id jimmy right well see this is the

3014
02:13:44,470 --> 02:13:41,840
thing do you know how many calls came in

3015
02:13:46,629 --> 02:13:44,480
in the last uh a few minutes right so

3016
02:13:47,510 --> 02:13:46,639
i'm just you know and it was just so

3017
02:13:50,149 --> 02:13:47,520
funny

3018
02:13:53,430 --> 02:13:50,159
uh i i went straight giorgio probably

3019
02:13:56,069 --> 02:13:53,440
heard uh uh me going i'm putting you on

3020
02:13:58,390 --> 02:13:56,079
hold right and i did putting you on hold

3021
02:14:00,790 --> 02:13:58,400
putting you on hold putting

3022
02:14:03,830 --> 02:14:00,800
uh it's great to have you two on the

3023
02:14:06,550 --> 02:14:03,840
show together it's it's too bad i've got

3024
02:14:08,149 --> 02:14:06,560
uh other calls behind you but i've got

3025
02:14:10,310 --> 02:14:08,159
to get you

3026
02:14:12,390 --> 02:14:10,320
back on the show as soon as possible my

3027
02:14:15,669 --> 02:14:12,400
man and and we got it whenever you're

3028
02:14:18,069 --> 02:14:15,679
ready yeah absolutely thank you so much

3029
02:14:20,310 --> 02:14:18,079
and uh thank you for the question yeah

3030
02:14:22,390 --> 02:14:20,320
absolutely my name is thanks thanks both

3031
02:14:23,270 --> 02:14:22,400
of you thanks much have a good night you

3032
02:14:24,629 --> 02:14:23,280
too

3033
02:14:25,750 --> 02:14:24,639
my new save

3034
02:14:27,430 --> 02:14:25,760
came in

3035
02:14:30,149 --> 02:14:27,440
wow that's uh

3036
02:14:32,149 --> 02:14:30,159
that's pretty cool now i've had um uh

3037
02:14:34,310 --> 02:14:32,159
manu on the show many times i also had

3038
02:14:35,270 --> 02:14:34,320
him uh over on coast to coast too as

3039
02:14:39,109 --> 02:14:35,280
well

3040
02:14:40,709 --> 02:14:39,119
and and his work is is is a game changer

3041
02:14:41,910 --> 02:14:40,719
for sure

3042
02:14:43,030 --> 02:14:41,920
um

3043
02:14:45,910 --> 02:14:43,040
let's uh

3044
02:14:47,990 --> 02:14:45,920
okay i'm gonna leave it to you again

3045
02:14:49,830 --> 02:14:48,000
giorgio all you have to say is if you

3046
02:14:51,030 --> 02:14:49,840
want the full you want the full

3047
02:14:53,189 --> 02:14:51,040
treatment

3048
02:14:54,629 --> 02:14:53,199
to say hi you're live on fade to black

3049
02:14:57,030 --> 02:14:54,639
who's calling

3050
02:14:59,430 --> 02:14:57,040
hey you're live on fate to black who's

3051
02:15:02,550 --> 02:14:59,440
calling

3052
02:15:04,229 --> 02:15:02,560
is that me that's you

3053
02:15:16,390 --> 02:15:04,239
wow

3054
02:15:20,870 --> 02:15:18,629
and uh georgia

3055
02:15:24,709 --> 02:15:23,030
when you said you seen something in the

3056
02:15:27,830 --> 02:15:24,719
sky

3057
02:15:29,109 --> 02:15:27,840
that an object came out of

3058
02:15:31,830 --> 02:15:29,119
years ago

3059
02:15:33,910 --> 02:15:31,840
i seen the same thing

3060
02:15:37,510 --> 02:15:33,920
i seen a strange star

3061
02:15:40,229 --> 02:15:37,520
up in the sky it was just looked weird

3062
02:15:41,750 --> 02:15:40,239
for some reason so i started staring at

3063
02:15:47,830 --> 02:15:41,760
it

3064
02:15:50,790 --> 02:15:47,840
maybe slowly i'm not sure but

3065
02:15:52,550 --> 02:15:50,800
it dropped something straight out of it

3066
02:15:54,550 --> 02:15:52,560
like a shooting star

3067
02:15:57,990 --> 02:15:54,560
straight down

3068
02:16:00,950 --> 02:15:58,000
to the like to the planet

3069
02:16:04,790 --> 02:16:00,960
and i i couldn't believe what it was i

3070
02:16:06,550 --> 02:16:04,800
don't i don't know what it was

3071
02:16:08,390 --> 02:16:06,560
yeah you know and that's really awesome

3072
02:16:10,229 --> 02:16:08,400
that you've had a similar experience

3073
02:16:12,310 --> 02:16:10,239
because

3074
02:16:15,109 --> 02:16:12,320
afterwards i started to look into this

3075
02:16:17,510 --> 02:16:15,119
and you know there are

3076
02:16:19,510 --> 02:16:17,520
multiple people that have seen similar

3077
02:16:20,390 --> 02:16:19,520
things and you are one of them

3078
02:16:22,310 --> 02:16:20,400
and

3079
02:16:24,629 --> 02:16:22,320
you know um

3080
02:16:27,350 --> 02:16:24,639
what's so fascinating is that

3081
02:16:28,950 --> 02:16:27,360
it was maneuverable it actually was able

3082
02:16:31,189 --> 02:16:28,960
to maneuver around it was not

3083
02:16:33,190 --> 02:16:31,199
necessarily just straight that would be

3084
02:16:36,150 --> 02:16:33,200
a different story and one could argue oh

3085
02:16:39,190 --> 02:16:36,160
you know we may have seen a you know a

3086
02:16:42,230 --> 02:16:39,200
meteor or or a shooting star or or

3087
02:16:45,669 --> 02:16:42,240
something yeah um you know but that was

3088
02:16:48,389 --> 02:16:45,679
not the case and so cool where were you

3089
02:16:49,990 --> 02:16:48,399
where did you see that

3090
02:16:50,790 --> 02:16:50,000
uh i'm out

3091
02:16:53,509 --> 02:16:50,800
i'm

3092
02:16:56,070 --> 02:16:53,519
50 miles south of pittsburgh

3093
02:16:57,990 --> 02:16:56,080
near canton pa

3094
02:16:59,990 --> 02:16:58,000
okay and so what was it in the middle of

3095
02:17:01,830 --> 02:17:00,000
the night and uh

3096
02:17:04,469 --> 02:17:01,840
yeah yeah interview

3097
02:17:07,990 --> 02:17:04,479
yeah yeah it was night

3098
02:17:10,469 --> 02:17:08,000
and i i've been to kittanning giorgio

3099
02:17:12,629 --> 02:17:10,479
oh wow yeah okay i i have been to

3100
02:17:15,589 --> 02:17:12,639
kittanning i've been tanning a few times

3101
02:17:16,389 --> 02:17:15,599
i don't believe you oh yeah okay i told

3102
02:17:19,910 --> 02:17:16,399
you

3103
02:17:20,709 --> 02:17:19,920
prove it

3104
02:17:25,910 --> 02:17:20,719
okay

3105
02:17:28,950 --> 02:17:25,920
uh well my dad was married to a a

3106
02:17:32,150 --> 02:17:28,960
lady from a woman from kittanning

3107
02:17:34,790 --> 02:17:32,160
and we went back and

3108
02:17:37,830 --> 02:17:34,800
i did a few things there but we went

3109
02:17:40,389 --> 02:17:37,840
back uh after uh

3110
02:17:41,589 --> 02:17:40,399
a thing in indianapolis drove to

3111
02:17:43,509 --> 02:17:41,599
kittanning

3112
02:17:46,150 --> 02:17:43,519
from indianapolis during the winter and

3113
02:17:47,110 --> 02:17:46,160
i took my skateboard kittanning giorgio

3114
02:17:49,750 --> 02:17:47,120
is a

3115
02:17:52,950 --> 02:17:49,760
uh it's it's in the hills

3116
02:17:55,589 --> 02:17:52,960
um and lots of coal mines out there lots

3117
02:17:58,389 --> 02:17:55,599
of that's one of the industries and lots

3118
02:17:59,750 --> 02:17:58,399
of trees yeah lots of that stuff

3119
02:18:02,870 --> 02:17:59,760
and uh

3120
02:18:04,549 --> 02:18:02,880
and i took my skateboard giorgio and and

3121
02:18:05,509 --> 02:18:04,559
had them i was i was a kid i was like

3122
02:18:08,389 --> 02:18:05,519
13.

3123
02:18:10,150 --> 02:18:08,399
and it had them take me to the this hill

3124
02:18:11,509 --> 02:18:10,160
with a road on it so i could skateboard

3125
02:18:15,030 --> 02:18:11,519
down the hill

3126
02:18:18,629 --> 02:18:15,040
and uh i had no idea how hilly

3127
02:18:21,190 --> 02:18:18,639
kittanning was it's you know and and it

3128
02:18:23,110 --> 02:18:21,200
was uh one of the most brutal skateboard

3129
02:18:25,429 --> 02:18:23,120
accidents in the history of the united

3130
02:18:26,790 --> 02:18:25,439
states that's all i'm going to say

3131
02:18:27,750 --> 02:18:26,800
and uh

3132
02:18:29,910 --> 02:18:27,760
but uh

3133
02:18:31,990 --> 02:18:29,920
kittanning is a great town man and it's

3134
02:18:33,990 --> 02:18:32,000
right outside of pittsburgh hey tuck

3135
02:18:35,669 --> 02:18:34,000
thank you for the phone call man and

3136
02:18:37,270 --> 02:18:35,679
don't be a stranger we love first time

3137
02:18:39,990 --> 02:18:37,280
callers here

3138
02:18:42,230 --> 02:18:40,000
i do have one other siding

3139
02:18:44,070 --> 02:18:42,240
is that okay well i've got other calls

3140
02:18:45,429 --> 02:18:44,080
on hold though okay and i just want to

3141
02:18:47,349 --> 02:18:45,439
get everybody in

3142
02:18:48,389 --> 02:18:47,359
thank you so much and and be safe out

3143
02:18:50,870 --> 02:18:48,399
there

3144
02:18:53,750 --> 02:18:50,880
oh you too thank you thank you

3145
02:18:55,270 --> 02:18:53,760
um how do i prove giorgio that i've been

3146
02:18:57,110 --> 02:18:55,280
to kittanning

3147
02:18:59,190 --> 02:18:57,120
what do i do uh

3148
02:19:01,190 --> 02:18:59,200
i said no i think you answered it i mean

3149
02:19:03,190 --> 02:19:01,200
having your dad's you know

3150
02:19:04,230 --> 02:19:03,200
absolutely no you're fine

3151
02:19:06,309 --> 02:19:04,240
and

3152
02:19:08,389 --> 02:19:06,319
you know i know i know that area also

3153
02:19:10,070 --> 02:19:08,399
very well i mean i you know i went to

3154
02:19:12,070 --> 02:19:10,080
ithaca and so

3155
02:19:15,589 --> 02:19:12,080
i spent some time

3156
02:19:18,150 --> 02:19:15,599
there in altoona and in carbondale

3157
02:19:21,589 --> 02:19:18,160
so yeah you know i mean

3158
02:19:24,469 --> 02:19:21,599
absolutely a fantastic place you know

3159
02:19:27,509 --> 02:19:24,479
middle of nowhere where sightings do

3160
02:19:29,030 --> 02:19:27,519
happen and they happen to this day

3161
02:19:29,990 --> 02:19:29,040
and

3162
02:19:32,150 --> 02:19:30,000
people

3163
02:19:35,349 --> 02:19:32,160
see things and you have to wonder what

3164
02:19:37,349 --> 02:19:35,359
it is yeah and uh we uh before i get to

3165
02:19:38,389 --> 02:19:37,359
the next call um

3166
02:19:39,830 --> 02:19:38,399
we uh

3167
02:19:41,750 --> 02:19:39,840
just uh did

3168
02:19:44,469 --> 02:19:41,760
it was about six months ago ufo

3169
02:19:47,830 --> 02:19:44,479
conference um out in laughlin

3170
02:19:48,950 --> 02:19:47,840
um but we went out uh to do some sky

3171
02:19:50,630 --> 02:19:48,960
watching

3172
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:50,640
and so we go out and we found this

3173
02:19:54,790 --> 02:19:53,120
petroglyph site and that was incredible

3174
02:19:57,190 --> 02:19:54,800
and that was a lot of fun and there was

3175
02:19:58,550 --> 02:19:57,200
like 20 maybe 30 of us pretty pretty

3176
02:20:01,190 --> 02:19:58,560
large group

3177
02:20:04,150 --> 02:20:01,200
and uh so we're down we're doing our

3178
02:20:05,030 --> 02:20:04,160
thing we didn't see

3179
02:20:06,950 --> 02:20:05,040
any

3180
02:20:09,590 --> 02:20:06,960
objects in the sky

3181
02:20:11,750 --> 02:20:09,600
but we saw something more incredible and

3182
02:20:13,429 --> 02:20:11,760
i'm not giorgio check this out so we're

3183
02:20:14,870 --> 02:20:13,439
all standing there we're looking up we

3184
02:20:17,190 --> 02:20:14,880
have our night vision and we're standing

3185
02:20:19,110 --> 02:20:17,200
there but at that moment in the middle

3186
02:20:22,870 --> 02:20:19,120
of the desert

3187
02:20:26,150 --> 02:20:22,880
black starlet sky beautiful night

3188
02:20:28,230 --> 02:20:26,160
streaking just out of nowhere a

3189
02:20:29,590 --> 02:20:28,240
ginormous

3190
02:20:32,550 --> 02:20:29,600
meteor

3191
02:20:34,469 --> 02:20:32,560
with flames coming off of it and not

3192
02:20:36,230 --> 02:20:34,479
only not only

3193
02:20:40,150 --> 02:20:36,240
was it uh

3194
02:20:42,070 --> 02:20:40,160
you know a meteor but it was low

3195
02:20:45,750 --> 02:20:42,080
and you could see it you could see the

3196
02:20:49,110 --> 02:20:45,760
shape and you could see the smoke and

3197
02:20:51,270 --> 02:20:49,120
and just right above at that moment and

3198
02:20:53,910 --> 02:20:51,280
that was to me cooler than seeing a

3199
02:20:57,030 --> 02:20:53,920
craft how often do you look up and just

3200
02:21:00,309 --> 02:20:57,040
see that a flaming

3201
02:21:03,990 --> 02:21:00,319
right it was like it was pink and blue

3202
02:21:08,070 --> 02:21:04,000
and green and flames and smoke it was

3203
02:21:10,790 --> 02:21:08,080
just incredible low too it was not high

3204
02:21:13,270 --> 02:21:10,800
wow i mean that must have been amazing

3205
02:21:14,309 --> 02:21:13,280
yeah it was so cool yeah all right let's

3206
02:21:16,630 --> 02:21:14,319
uh

3207
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:16,640
let's go back to the phones okay

3208
02:21:20,070 --> 02:21:19,120
say it giorgio you know what to do

3209
02:21:24,230 --> 02:21:20,080
all right

3210
02:21:26,389 --> 02:21:24,240
you're live on fate to black go ahead

3211
02:21:29,110 --> 02:21:26,399
all right thank you very much this is

3212
02:21:32,230 --> 02:21:29,120
jay and coral gables and soflo it's

3213
02:21:34,790 --> 02:21:32,240
freezing it's like 60 here

3214
02:21:37,270 --> 02:21:34,800
it's freezing at coral gables

3215
02:21:39,030 --> 02:21:37,280
60 degrees yeah all right you guys are

3216
02:21:41,190 --> 02:21:39,040
wearing your sweater on your hoodie yes

3217
02:21:43,270 --> 02:21:41,200
yeah yeah you got to deal with it

3218
02:21:44,870 --> 02:21:43,280
i'm wearing a sweater yep so look i've

3219
02:21:47,030 --> 02:21:44,880
been listening to the show i love it and

3220
02:21:49,510 --> 02:21:47,040
i love both your shows and uh

3221
02:21:52,309 --> 02:21:49,520
you know your frustration with

3222
02:21:55,030 --> 02:21:52,319
current uh archaeology compared to what

3223
02:21:56,950 --> 02:21:55,040
we all believe i understand and it

3224
02:21:58,790 --> 02:21:56,960
reminds me of the great book by a guy

3225
02:22:00,950 --> 02:21:58,800
named thomas called the structure

3226
02:22:02,710 --> 02:22:00,960
of scientific revolutions i don't know

3227
02:22:04,710 --> 02:22:02,720
if you're familiar with this book

3228
02:22:10,630 --> 02:22:04,720
it's written in the 50s 60s he was a

3229
02:22:14,309 --> 02:22:12,790
a guy named thomas

3230
02:22:16,389 --> 02:22:14,319
who was a harvard

3231
02:22:19,110 --> 02:22:16,399
historian of science

3232
02:22:21,830 --> 02:22:19,120
and he discovered he kind of he kind of

3233
02:22:24,230 --> 02:22:21,840
popularized the word paradigm basically

3234
02:22:27,510 --> 02:22:24,240
and he discovered that science moves and

3235
02:22:29,110 --> 02:22:27,520
shifts and and if everybody kind of

3236
02:22:31,110 --> 02:22:29,120
sticks with the same

3237
02:22:33,030 --> 02:22:31,120
you know perspective until enough

3238
02:22:35,190 --> 02:22:33,040
anomalies build up in first when they

3239
02:22:36,950 --> 02:22:35,200
see an anomaly or they don't see it

3240
02:22:38,950 --> 02:22:36,960
and then they see one and they discard

3241
02:22:41,190 --> 02:22:38,960
it as an error but enough of them have

3242
02:22:42,309 --> 02:22:41,200
to accumulate and finally they have to

3243
02:22:43,910 --> 02:22:42,319
shift their perspective and say all

3244
02:22:45,429 --> 02:22:43,920
right we need to see things a little

3245
02:22:46,950 --> 02:22:45,439
differently here right and i hope that's

3246
02:22:50,710 --> 02:22:46,960
what happens with us

3247
02:22:52,469 --> 02:22:50,720
and he had a great experiment um

3248
02:22:54,230 --> 02:22:52,479
this is going to totally illustrate it

3249
02:22:56,550 --> 02:22:54,240
he would show that in the book he shows

3250
02:22:58,389 --> 02:22:56,560
people cards from a deck

3251
02:23:00,389 --> 02:22:58,399
okay and really in a flash really quick

3252
02:23:02,790 --> 02:23:00,399
flash and they say oh that's that's the

3253
02:23:05,190 --> 02:23:02,800
four clubs that state of hearts whatever

3254
02:23:07,590 --> 02:23:05,200
and then mixed in with that

3255
02:23:08,790 --> 02:23:07,600
is a club card that's red or a heart

3256
02:23:10,550 --> 02:23:08,800
that's black

3257
02:23:11,990 --> 02:23:10,560
and people didn't know what they saw or

3258
02:23:12,710 --> 02:23:12,000
they didn't see it they just called it

3259
02:23:14,870 --> 02:23:12,720
out

3260
02:23:16,630 --> 02:23:14,880
as what they thought it was and if they

3261
02:23:18,070 --> 02:23:16,640
saw it as something odd they didn't know

3262
02:23:19,270 --> 02:23:18,080
what they saw on something actually got

3263
02:23:21,030 --> 02:23:19,280
upset

3264
02:23:22,710 --> 02:23:21,040
and uh they didn't know what they saw

3265
02:23:24,630 --> 02:23:22,720
because everybody knows there's no such

3266
02:23:25,750 --> 02:23:24,640
thing as a red club or a black heart

3267
02:23:30,950 --> 02:23:25,760
right

3268
02:23:32,550 --> 02:23:30,960
yes very interesting

3269
02:23:34,870 --> 02:23:32,560
it's an awesome book you should check it

3270
02:23:36,710 --> 02:23:34,880
out it's it's really good it reminds me

3271
02:23:39,270 --> 02:23:36,720
what you're going through

3272
02:23:42,230 --> 02:23:39,280
yeah absolutely i'll check it out thank

3273
02:23:44,870 --> 02:23:42,240
you but but see uh uh

3274
02:23:45,750 --> 02:23:44,880
what uh to me what jay is pointing out

3275
02:23:49,349 --> 02:23:45,760
here

3276
02:23:51,110 --> 02:23:49,359
is that if you see something uh quickly

3277
02:23:52,550 --> 02:23:51,120
your brain

3278
02:23:55,750 --> 02:23:52,560
has been

3279
02:23:59,510 --> 02:23:55,760
uh programmed since birth right and your

3280
02:24:01,030 --> 02:23:59,520
brain acts extremely fast the amount of

3281
02:24:04,150 --> 02:24:01,040
calculations

3282
02:24:06,950 --> 02:24:04,160
that happen in your eyeballs

3283
02:24:08,550 --> 02:24:06,960
between your nerves and your neurons to

3284
02:24:12,230 --> 02:24:08,560
just in in

3285
02:24:13,910 --> 02:24:12,240
in nanoseconds and it's repetitive right

3286
02:24:17,190 --> 02:24:13,920
so you're looking at a car you're

3287
02:24:19,429 --> 02:24:17,200
looking at a human body well instantly

3288
02:24:21,429 --> 02:24:19,439
these calculations are happening

3289
02:24:23,830 --> 02:24:21,439
because you need to understand what

3290
02:24:25,910 --> 02:24:23,840
you're looking at you don't have you're

3291
02:24:28,469 --> 02:24:25,920
not going to think about what you're

3292
02:24:30,870 --> 02:24:28,479
seeing you're going to know what you are

3293
02:24:33,910 --> 02:24:30,880
seeing well then when you see something

3294
02:24:36,630 --> 02:24:33,920
that is not programmed right

3295
02:24:39,270 --> 02:24:36,640
that you're not ready for

3296
02:24:40,950 --> 02:24:39,280
you're you you may not even see it

3297
02:24:43,349 --> 02:24:40,960
and right

3298
02:24:45,349 --> 02:24:43,359
do you understand what i'm uh is i i do

3299
02:24:47,270 --> 02:24:45,359
i do but you know there's some people

3300
02:24:48,790 --> 02:24:47,280
and and uh you know i'm not sure if

3301
02:24:49,750 --> 02:24:48,800
we're talking about the same thing but

3302
02:24:51,750 --> 02:24:49,760
there are

3303
02:24:53,190 --> 02:24:51,760
some archaeologists who have suggested

3304
02:24:55,429 --> 02:24:53,200
that you know when

3305
02:24:59,030 --> 02:24:55,439
the the the first people from europe

3306
02:25:00,950 --> 02:24:59,040
arrived or to to look at the americas or

3307
02:25:02,070 --> 02:25:00,960
you know central or south america that

3308
02:25:03,349 --> 02:25:02,080
you know that

3309
02:25:05,030 --> 02:25:03,359
that the

3310
02:25:07,030 --> 02:25:05,040
people over here

3311
02:25:09,110 --> 02:25:07,040
did not see the boats because they had

3312
02:25:11,510 --> 02:25:09,120
never seen a boat before and thus they

3313
02:25:13,270 --> 02:25:11,520
were blind to the boat

3314
02:25:15,270 --> 02:25:13,280
um exactly i'm not quite sure if we're

3315
02:25:18,469 --> 02:25:15,280
talking about the same thing we are we

3316
02:25:20,710 --> 02:25:18,479
are yes then i i disagree with that

3317
02:25:22,950 --> 02:25:20,720
notion because um

3318
02:25:25,670 --> 02:25:22,960
you know i i

3319
02:25:27,910 --> 02:25:25,680
i simply cannot

3320
02:25:29,670 --> 02:25:27,920
fathom this idea that just because we're

3321
02:25:31,429 --> 02:25:29,680
not familiar with an object that it

3322
02:25:33,349 --> 02:25:31,439
cannot be seen because

3323
02:25:35,590 --> 02:25:33,359
we we know

3324
02:25:38,630 --> 02:25:35,600
from from cargo cult behavior or from

3325
02:25:40,389 --> 02:25:38,640
behavior in in the past that you know

3326
02:25:43,349 --> 02:25:40,399
even if if

3327
02:25:46,950 --> 02:25:43,359
a technologically primitive person

3328
02:25:51,030 --> 02:25:46,960
is introduced to something modern

3329
02:25:53,270 --> 02:25:51,040
they can they can see it it's not

3330
02:25:55,429 --> 02:25:53,280
seen what i'm foreign is the dogma that

3331
02:25:58,870 --> 02:25:55,439
you're fighting is is based on what i

3332
02:26:01,990 --> 02:25:58,880
was talking about oh the dogma itself

3333
02:26:06,309 --> 02:26:02,000
yes yes i that i completely agree with

3334
02:26:10,309 --> 02:26:06,319
you that it is a a slow slow change of

3335
02:26:12,150 --> 02:26:10,319
pace and and dogma so yes i i completely

3336
02:26:14,630 --> 02:26:12,160
agree that you know we

3337
02:26:15,590 --> 02:26:14,640
we see these connections uh you know the

3338
02:26:24,710 --> 02:26:15,600
the

3339
02:26:26,469 --> 02:26:24,720
and you know it's just a matter of uh

3340
02:26:28,469 --> 02:26:26,479
the rest to you know

3341
02:26:31,030 --> 02:26:28,479
not i don't want to say catch up because

3342
02:26:33,429 --> 02:26:31,040
that's not what this is about it's

3343
02:26:36,070 --> 02:26:33,439
you know for others to start

3344
02:26:38,389 --> 02:26:36,080
asking themselves

3345
02:26:40,150 --> 02:26:38,399
the book says uh the old school

3346
02:26:42,070 --> 02:26:40,160
literally almost basically has to die

3347
02:26:43,670 --> 02:26:42,080
out before the new school takes and

3348
02:26:45,750 --> 02:26:43,680
takes over

3349
02:26:48,710 --> 02:26:45,760
there's some there's some aspects to

3350
02:26:50,710 --> 02:26:48,720
truth to that i would have to uh

3351
02:26:53,110 --> 02:26:50,720
wholeheartedly agree

3352
02:26:55,030 --> 02:26:53,120
i could not imagine georgio you brought

3353
02:26:56,950 --> 02:26:55,040
up such a great point

3354
02:26:58,790 --> 02:26:56,960
thinking about

3355
02:27:01,910 --> 02:26:58,800
you know the mayans in the caribbean

3356
02:27:04,710 --> 02:27:01,920
right they're on a beach and and and and

3357
02:27:06,309 --> 02:27:04,720
here come the spanish right

3358
02:27:08,870 --> 02:27:06,319
and looking at

3359
02:27:11,429 --> 02:27:08,880
what is arriving

3360
02:27:12,710 --> 02:27:11,439
and you've never seen a a ship with

3361
02:27:15,830 --> 02:27:12,720
sales

3362
02:27:18,550 --> 02:27:15,840
right and and and and here they come how

3363
02:27:21,270 --> 02:27:18,560
do you how do you compute that

3364
02:27:22,950 --> 02:27:21,280
i mean how do you how do you digest it i

3365
02:27:24,469 --> 02:27:22,960
cannot imagine

3366
02:27:27,270 --> 02:27:24,479
uh the

3367
02:27:30,070 --> 02:27:27,280
the emotions right the adrenaline rush

3368
02:27:32,790 --> 02:27:30,080
trying to figure out so and what was so

3369
02:27:34,870 --> 02:27:32,800
tragic especially in one of those cases

3370
02:27:38,469 --> 02:27:34,880
was the fact that you know the

3371
02:27:40,710 --> 02:27:38,479
the maya were expecting the return of

3372
02:27:42,230 --> 02:27:40,720
one of their deities and in this case it

3373
02:27:45,670 --> 02:27:42,240
was quetzalcoatl

3374
02:27:47,429 --> 02:27:45,680
and as we know uh the maya celebrate

3375
02:27:50,150 --> 02:27:47,439
you know the arrival of quetzalcoatl's

3376
02:27:53,190 --> 02:27:50,160
obvious obviously every year but every

3377
02:27:54,790 --> 02:27:53,200
52 years it's the big celebration and

3378
02:27:55,670 --> 02:27:54,800
it's because

3379
02:27:57,990 --> 02:27:55,680
the

3380
02:27:58,950 --> 02:27:58,000
mayan calendar is based on this 52 year

3381
02:28:03,190 --> 02:27:58,960
cycle

3382
02:28:05,110 --> 02:28:03,200
and it just so happened and you

3383
02:28:06,070 --> 02:28:05,120
may want to attribute it to coincidence

3384
02:28:07,510 --> 02:28:06,080
or not

3385
02:28:08,710 --> 02:28:07,520
but that

3386
02:28:10,550 --> 02:28:08,720
pizzaro

3387
02:28:13,590 --> 02:28:10,560
or it was cortez one of the two but they

3388
02:28:16,309 --> 02:28:13,600
just happened to arrive in the same year

3389
02:28:17,270 --> 02:28:16,319
that one of those big celebrations were

3390
02:28:18,550 --> 02:28:17,280
so

3391
02:28:21,270 --> 02:28:18,560
essentially

3392
02:28:24,150 --> 02:28:21,280
to use a modern phrase

3393
02:28:26,389 --> 02:28:24,160
the local population rolled out

3394
02:28:29,270 --> 02:28:26,399
the red carpet for

3395
02:28:31,110 --> 02:28:29,280
the the new arrivals and it it's one of

3396
02:28:33,030 --> 02:28:31,120
the most tragic

3397
02:28:34,389 --> 02:28:33,040
coincidences in

3398
02:28:36,469 --> 02:28:34,399
in in

3399
02:28:39,270 --> 02:28:36,479
in the history of the of our world i

3400
02:28:40,630 --> 02:28:39,280
mean it's absolutely tragic where

3401
02:28:42,870 --> 02:28:40,640
you know because i mean bizarre and even

3402
02:28:45,750 --> 02:28:42,880
cortez they just showed up with what 80

3403
02:28:48,630 --> 02:28:45,760
people 8-0 not more they didn't show up

3404
02:28:51,030 --> 02:28:48,640
with hundreds they showed up with dozens

3405
02:28:52,070 --> 02:28:51,040
and because they had guns and because

3406
02:28:54,389 --> 02:28:52,080
they had

3407
02:28:56,950 --> 02:28:54,399
a whole bunch of diseases

3408
02:28:57,910 --> 02:28:56,960
that there were no antibodies for that

3409
02:28:58,710 --> 02:28:57,920
here

3410
02:29:00,550 --> 02:28:58,720
um

3411
02:29:02,790 --> 02:29:00,560
that uh

3412
02:29:04,870 --> 02:29:02,800
they succeeded in the first place it was

3413
02:29:05,830 --> 02:29:04,880
absolutely harrowing and awful what

3414
02:29:07,670 --> 02:29:05,840
happened

3415
02:29:09,670 --> 02:29:07,680
jay thank you for the phone call man and

3416
02:29:11,030 --> 02:29:09,680
i'm going to check out thomas coons book

3417
02:29:12,870 --> 02:29:11,040
thank you for that

3418
02:29:14,309 --> 02:29:12,880
yeah thank you very much nice to talk to

3419
02:29:15,510 --> 02:29:14,319
you have a good night yeah you too have

3420
02:29:18,790 --> 02:29:15,520
a great night

3421
02:29:20,790 --> 02:29:18,800
and uh now giorgio uh before i let you

3422
02:29:23,590 --> 02:29:20,800
go first off thank you another great

3423
02:29:26,070 --> 02:29:23,600
amazing conversation but uh what's up

3424
02:29:29,110 --> 02:29:26,080
for 2022 what are your plans besides

3425
02:29:30,309 --> 02:29:29,120
coming and doing some ufo chasing with

3426
02:29:33,429 --> 02:29:30,319
me

3427
02:29:35,349 --> 02:29:33,439
yeah so um as many of you know we are in

3428
02:29:36,469 --> 02:29:35,359
the middle of a new season of ancient

3429
02:29:39,349 --> 02:29:36,479
aliens

3430
02:29:40,950 --> 02:29:39,359
and i've got some episode titles for you

3431
02:29:41,990 --> 02:29:40,960
of episodes that are coming up for

3432
02:29:43,670 --> 02:29:42,000
example

3433
02:29:45,990 --> 02:29:43,680
this friday

3434
02:29:49,190 --> 02:29:46,000
we are have an episode called the world

3435
02:29:52,309 --> 02:29:49,200
on alert we'll we'll dig deeper into

3436
02:29:55,990 --> 02:29:52,319
the events of the past year and a half

3437
02:29:58,469 --> 02:29:56,000
because there are still documents that

3438
02:30:00,630 --> 02:29:58,479
have not been discussed and we are doing

3439
02:30:02,870 --> 02:30:00,640
that on the show and showing up a couple

3440
02:30:05,910 --> 02:30:02,880
of more video clips that have not been

3441
02:30:08,870 --> 02:30:05,920
seen before and then

3442
02:30:10,630 --> 02:30:08,880
on in february we will have an episode

3443
02:30:13,670 --> 02:30:10,640
called recovering the ark of the

3444
02:30:16,550 --> 02:30:13,680
covenant where we will once again look

3445
02:30:19,190 --> 02:30:16,560
at the mysteries and the potential

3446
02:30:21,270 --> 02:30:19,200
hiding place of the ark of the covenant

3447
02:30:23,750 --> 02:30:21,280
and you know if some people have asked

3448
02:30:26,070 --> 02:30:23,760
well how come we revisit some of these

3449
02:30:27,990 --> 02:30:26,080
old topics well it's because there's

3450
02:30:31,190 --> 02:30:28,000
also new viewers

3451
02:30:34,230 --> 02:30:31,200
and they need to be reintroduced to the

3452
02:30:35,110 --> 02:30:34,240
topics and because not everybody has

3453
02:30:39,590 --> 02:30:35,120
seen

3454
02:30:41,670 --> 02:30:39,600
the what 162 plus episodes so it's okay

3455
02:30:43,190 --> 02:30:41,680
and plus um

3456
02:30:47,270 --> 02:30:43,200
new topics

3457
02:30:50,070 --> 02:30:47,280
sorry new revelations in these topics

3458
02:30:50,790 --> 02:30:50,080
have come out so you know

3459
02:30:55,429 --> 02:30:50,800
we

3460
02:30:58,070 --> 02:30:55,439
would talk about new discoveries new

3461
02:31:00,710 --> 02:30:58,080
excavations at pumapunku and then for

3462
02:31:02,630 --> 02:31:00,720
example one of the episodes we'll talk

3463
02:31:05,030 --> 02:31:02,640
about the shadow people

3464
02:31:06,070 --> 02:31:05,040
and we're gonna be decoding the dragon

3465
02:31:09,750 --> 02:31:06,080
gods

3466
02:31:11,429 --> 02:31:09,760
and we'll also have a show called the

3467
02:31:13,670 --> 02:31:11,439
time vendors

3468
02:31:16,230 --> 02:31:13,680
so this will all you know be from now

3469
02:31:18,790 --> 02:31:16,240
until mid-march there's still about six

3470
02:31:21,110 --> 02:31:18,800
episodes coming for this season so

3471
02:31:24,630 --> 02:31:21,120
you know exciting stuff yeah you know

3472
02:31:27,030 --> 02:31:24,640
and and to get to 18 seasons of anything

3473
02:31:30,230 --> 02:31:27,040
is is a huge accomplishment but i'm

3474
02:31:33,510 --> 02:31:30,240
gonna say this uh to you giorgio i can't

3475
02:31:34,550 --> 02:31:33,520
imagine it happening without robert clot

3476
02:31:36,710 --> 02:31:34,560
worthy

3477
02:31:37,750 --> 02:31:36,720
i mean i i'm just i'm just putting it

3478
02:31:40,870 --> 02:31:37,760
out there right

3479
02:31:43,750 --> 02:31:40,880
he is the absolute best and i'm sure

3480
02:31:46,150 --> 02:31:43,760
he's listening right now giorgio have a

3481
02:31:48,469 --> 02:31:46,160
great rest of your evening my best to

3482
02:31:51,349 --> 02:31:48,479
crick and i will be talking to you soon

3483
02:31:53,510 --> 02:31:51,359
we've got plans thank you giorgio

3484
02:31:55,830 --> 02:31:53,520
you got it by fade or not have a great

3485
02:31:57,910 --> 02:31:55,840
now thanks so much for having me jimmy

3486
02:32:00,469 --> 02:31:57,920
and uh always a pleasure thank you so

3487
02:32:02,230 --> 02:32:00,479
much the absolute very best giorgio

3488
02:32:05,670 --> 02:32:02,240
sucralose season 18 they're in the

3489
02:32:07,270 --> 02:32:05,680
middle of it right now of ancient aliens

3490
02:32:08,710 --> 02:32:07,280
and just like me

3491
02:32:10,389 --> 02:32:08,720
you need to go and check it out friday

3492
02:32:11,910 --> 02:32:10,399
night's right there on history channel

3493
02:32:13,590 --> 02:32:11,920
all right murals jimmy church this is

3494
02:32:15,030 --> 02:32:13,600
fade to black i'm going to keep the

3495
02:32:16,630 --> 02:32:15,040
phone lines open

3496
02:32:18,440 --> 02:32:16,640
i'll be right back after this short

3497
02:32:43,429 --> 02:32:18,450
break stay with us

3498
02:32:47,110 --> 02:32:45,590
you're listening to jimmy church and

3499
02:32:52,070 --> 02:32:47,120
fade to black

3500
02:32:56,389 --> 02:32:53,910
hey what up y'alls your girlfriend fox

3501
02:33:01,590 --> 02:32:56,399
here and you are listening to my boy

3502
02:33:12,710 --> 02:33:04,150
despite popular opinion

3503
02:33:18,070 --> 02:33:15,110
this is jimmy church and i personally

3504
02:33:20,710 --> 02:33:18,080
invite you to the 2022 conscious life

3505
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expo this february 4th through the 7th

3506
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02:37:55,030 --> 02:37:51,040
thank georgios

3597
02:38:01,030 --> 02:37:57,750
giorgio taking calls that was uh too

3598
02:38:02,870 --> 02:38:01,040
perfect he just texted thank you uh and

3599
02:38:05,510 --> 02:38:02,880
uh he said what a blast thank you fade

3600
02:38:07,910 --> 02:38:05,520
or not and that is just going out to you

3601
02:38:11,910 --> 02:38:07,920
uh that was just uh a perfect night

3602
02:38:15,510 --> 02:38:11,920
perfect night on the show season 18

3603
02:38:17,349 --> 02:38:15,520
of ancient aliens ah it's

3604
02:38:19,510 --> 02:38:17,359
season 18

3605
02:38:21,190 --> 02:38:19,520
and uh it's right in the middle of uh

3606
02:38:23,750 --> 02:38:21,200
the new season right now thank you

3607
02:38:25,910 --> 02:38:23,760
giorgio and i'm serious we're gonna be

3608
02:38:27,830 --> 02:38:25,920
uh we're gonna go chase some ufos out

3609
02:38:29,750 --> 02:38:27,840
here in the mojave and uh i'll keep

3610
02:38:31,510 --> 02:38:29,760
everybody posted that's gonna be a great

3611
02:38:33,349 --> 02:38:31,520
night all right with that i've left the

3612
02:38:34,790 --> 02:38:33,359
phone lines open seven four seven two

3613
02:38:36,630 --> 02:38:34,800
two eight two zero five one i've got a

3614
02:38:38,870 --> 02:38:36,640
lot of calls on hold

3615
02:38:40,870 --> 02:38:38,880
and uh if you're if you're on hold stay

3616
02:38:42,230 --> 02:38:40,880
right there and uh let's uh let's go

3617
02:38:44,550 --> 02:38:42,240
back to the phones hi you're live i'm

3618
02:38:47,429 --> 02:38:44,560
fade to black who's calling

3619
02:38:49,670 --> 02:38:47,439
hey jimmy it's madeline from new jersey

3620
02:38:52,150 --> 02:38:49,680
hey madeline how are you what a great

3621
02:38:54,230 --> 02:38:52,160
night with georgio i'm good

3622
02:38:55,590 --> 02:38:54,240
oh my gosh awesome

3623
02:38:59,030 --> 02:38:55,600
we've been brian and i have been

3624
02:39:01,670 --> 02:38:59,040
watching like old ancient alien

3625
02:39:05,030 --> 02:39:01,680
on discovery i think discovery plus it's

3626
02:39:07,270 --> 02:39:05,040
a discovery or his history plus

3627
02:39:08,790 --> 02:39:07,280
right is it historian

3628
02:39:11,670 --> 02:39:08,800
or maybe we're watching youtube i don't

3629
02:39:13,510 --> 02:39:11,680
know he puts it on we watch it

3630
02:39:15,830 --> 02:39:13,520
i mean but it's funny that we've been

3631
02:39:17,910 --> 02:39:15,840
watching his old shows and like i'm like

3632
02:39:20,790 --> 02:39:17,920
alright he's coming on as a guest

3633
02:39:23,110 --> 02:39:20,800
yeah i did have a question go ahead no

3634
02:39:25,510 --> 02:39:23,120
no you called me go ahead madeline it's

3635
02:39:28,309 --> 02:39:25,520
all about you right now question for

3636
02:39:30,950 --> 02:39:28,319
giorgio but maybe you could earlier he

3637
02:39:33,429 --> 02:39:30,960
mentioned about our species wasn't sir

3638
02:39:34,389 --> 02:39:33,439
supposed to survive he believes we had

3639
02:39:36,230 --> 02:39:34,399
help

3640
02:39:38,870 --> 02:39:36,240
i was going to ask him who does he

3641
02:39:41,990 --> 02:39:38,880
believe helped us and why well you don't

3642
02:39:44,389 --> 02:39:42,000
have any thoughts on that i i this is i

3643
02:39:46,950 --> 02:39:44,399
i keep getting yes i know right

3644
02:39:50,070 --> 02:39:46,960
um i i keep going back to the same

3645
02:39:52,070 --> 02:39:50,080
thought process and uh which a lot of it

3646
02:39:53,750 --> 02:39:52,080
i got from

3647
02:39:56,309 --> 02:39:53,760
ancient aliens and

3648
02:39:58,550 --> 02:39:56,319
and uh i almost said robert klopp were

3649
02:40:00,230 --> 02:39:58,560
they uh eric von daniken

3650
02:40:03,670 --> 02:40:00,240
william henry

3651
02:40:07,190 --> 02:40:03,680
um and and others

3652
02:40:09,510 --> 02:40:07,200
i it really opened up my eyes

3653
02:40:11,590 --> 02:40:09,520
uh to

3654
02:40:13,670 --> 02:40:11,600
what is it when

3655
02:40:15,190 --> 02:40:13,680
an ancient culture

3656
02:40:17,110 --> 02:40:15,200
wants to say

3657
02:40:19,429 --> 02:40:17,120
that

3658
02:40:22,230 --> 02:40:19,439
somebody spoke to them from the heavens

3659
02:40:24,309 --> 02:40:22,240
the heavens to me mean one thing like

3660
02:40:26,469 --> 02:40:24,319
everybody right it's it's out there it's

3661
02:40:27,349 --> 02:40:26,479
the stars it's it's above us it's off

3662
02:40:29,510 --> 02:40:27,359
earth

3663
02:40:30,870 --> 02:40:29,520
right it's not terra firma

3664
02:40:31,830 --> 02:40:30,880
and

3665
02:40:38,950 --> 02:40:31,840
who

3666
02:40:40,389 --> 02:40:38,960
and i keep going back to that and

3667
02:40:44,309 --> 02:40:40,399
would we

3668
02:40:46,630 --> 02:40:44,319
um even today in today's culture

3669
02:40:49,110 --> 02:40:46,640
uh would we refer to some kind of

3670
02:40:50,870 --> 02:40:49,120
contact like that from the gods it's a

3671
02:40:54,230 --> 02:40:50,880
lot of us would

3672
02:40:55,830 --> 02:40:54,240
so why would we get off of that idea now

3673
02:40:56,950 --> 02:40:55,840
the question is

3674
02:40:58,790 --> 02:40:56,960
who

3675
02:41:02,950 --> 02:40:58,800
is is speaking

3676
02:41:05,269 --> 02:41:02,960
right that's that's that's right uh it's

3677
02:41:08,070 --> 02:41:05,279
it seems to be right i was curious yeah

3678
02:41:10,469 --> 02:41:08,080
it seems like his answer would be well

3679
02:41:13,429 --> 02:41:10,479
now now if we back up madeline let's

3680
02:41:15,590 --> 02:41:13,439
back up a little bit off of this and

3681
02:41:17,590 --> 02:41:15,600
and examine what

3682
02:41:19,830 --> 02:41:17,600
what some of the cultures around the

3683
02:41:22,870 --> 02:41:19,840
world have talked to us about and that

3684
02:41:25,830 --> 02:41:22,880
would be uh of course we have the

3685
02:41:27,110 --> 02:41:25,840
anunnaki we have the watchers we have

3686
02:41:30,309 --> 02:41:27,120
atlantis

3687
02:41:34,309 --> 02:41:30,319
uh we have uh the gods of the ancient

3688
02:41:36,309 --> 02:41:34,319
gods of egypt that predate everything by

3689
02:41:37,110 --> 02:41:36,319
tens of thousands of years

3690
02:41:38,230 --> 02:41:37,120
um

3691
02:41:40,469 --> 02:41:38,240
where

3692
02:41:43,190 --> 02:41:40,479
who taught

3693
02:41:44,950 --> 02:41:43,200
i'm i'm being very serious here

3694
02:41:47,510 --> 02:41:44,960
who taught

3695
02:41:48,950 --> 02:41:47,520
the builders of gobekli tepe

3696
02:41:52,790 --> 02:41:48,960
how to

3697
02:41:54,950 --> 02:41:52,800
quarry and carve stone

3698
02:41:56,790 --> 02:41:54,960
how does that happen that's my first

3699
02:41:59,750 --> 02:41:56,800
thought i always think about that

3700
02:42:01,269 --> 02:41:59,760
exactly i mean you don't belong to signs

3701
02:42:03,670 --> 02:42:01,279
right right

3702
02:42:04,710 --> 02:42:03,680
you don't wake up you don't wake up one

3703
02:42:05,910 --> 02:42:04,720
day

3704
02:42:09,110 --> 02:42:05,920
um

3705
02:42:10,870 --> 02:42:09,120
as stone age allegedly a stone age

3706
02:42:13,349 --> 02:42:10,880
culture without any knowledge of

3707
02:42:15,349 --> 02:42:13,359
anything and just go you know what man

3708
02:42:17,110 --> 02:42:15,359
let's just carve these big rocks out of

3709
02:42:18,309 --> 02:42:17,120
this quarry

3710
02:42:19,750 --> 02:42:18,319
what

3711
02:42:21,750 --> 02:42:19,760
if

3712
02:42:25,030 --> 02:42:21,760
stone age man is supposed to be worrying

3713
02:42:26,389 --> 02:42:25,040
about living through the night that's

3714
02:42:29,349 --> 02:42:26,399
what you do

3715
02:42:31,830 --> 02:42:29,359
you're you're focused on feeding

3716
02:42:35,510 --> 02:42:31,840
yourself and your family and somehow

3717
02:42:37,429 --> 02:42:35,520
surviving the wild beasts out there that

3718
02:42:38,870 --> 02:42:37,439
are trying to

3719
02:42:41,030 --> 02:42:38,880
eat you

3720
02:42:42,790 --> 02:42:41,040
right that's what you that

3721
02:42:45,030 --> 02:42:42,800
that's how you find the more and listen

3722
02:42:46,389 --> 02:42:45,040
the more questions and the more it does

3723
02:42:48,469 --> 02:42:46,399
it makes you think

3724
02:42:50,309 --> 02:42:48,479
and you continually are just thinking

3725
02:42:52,950 --> 02:42:50,319
and gathering your thoughts and it's

3726
02:42:54,389 --> 02:42:52,960
it's just it's endless yes yes and so

3727
02:42:56,230 --> 02:42:54,399
somebody

3728
02:42:57,429 --> 02:42:56,240
taught

3729
02:42:58,950 --> 02:42:57,439
them

3730
02:43:01,190 --> 02:42:58,960
how to do it

3731
02:43:03,110 --> 02:43:01,200
and somebody taught them and taught them

3732
02:43:04,790 --> 02:43:03,120
and you you want me to give you the best

3733
02:43:06,950 --> 02:43:04,800
example of it i'm going to tell you

3734
02:43:11,830 --> 02:43:06,960
right now you

3735
02:43:15,110 --> 02:43:13,429
now so we

3736
02:43:17,990 --> 02:43:15,120
yeah let's take a look at the iphone for

3737
02:43:21,269 --> 02:43:18,000
a second oh well you know uh steve jobs

3738
02:43:23,910 --> 02:43:21,279
invented it no he did not

3739
02:43:25,910 --> 02:43:23,920
and the idea

3740
02:43:28,309 --> 02:43:25,920
for the iphone

3741
02:43:30,469 --> 02:43:28,319
came from something else that was taught

3742
02:43:32,070 --> 02:43:30,479
and then before that something else and

3743
02:43:33,910 --> 02:43:32,080
something else and something else and

3744
02:43:36,309 --> 02:43:33,920
you can go all the way back

3745
02:43:38,790 --> 02:43:36,319
and and and get be you know let's go

3746
02:43:40,389 --> 02:43:38,800
back to the telegraph and then you know

3747
02:43:43,670 --> 02:43:40,399
be you know

3748
02:43:46,150 --> 02:43:43,680
everything is taught

3749
02:43:49,269 --> 02:43:46,160
everything is something that you have

3750
02:43:52,150 --> 02:43:49,279
learned from somebody before you and you

3751
02:43:53,110 --> 02:43:52,160
take that idea and you advance it that's

3752
02:43:54,309 --> 02:43:53,120
it

3753
02:43:55,510 --> 02:43:54,319
so

3754
02:43:58,550 --> 02:43:55,520
were the

3755
02:44:00,710 --> 02:43:58,560
builders of gobekli tepe the inventors

3756
02:44:01,910 --> 02:44:00,720
of carving stone

3757
02:44:03,429 --> 02:44:01,920
no

3758
02:44:06,389 --> 02:44:03,439
they were taught

3759
02:44:08,389 --> 02:44:06,399
they learned it from somebody else and

3760
02:44:10,550 --> 02:44:08,399
that and it just continues to go

3761
02:44:13,269 --> 02:44:10,560
backwards and backwards and backwards

3762
02:44:14,870 --> 02:44:13,279
and that's the best way to to look at

3763
02:44:15,990 --> 02:44:14,880
this look at the iphone look at the

3764
02:44:17,670 --> 02:44:16,000
computer

3765
02:44:20,070 --> 02:44:17,680
look at cars

3766
02:44:22,950 --> 02:44:20,080
you know look at anything around us

3767
02:44:24,710 --> 02:44:22,960
today the sewing machine right where did

3768
02:44:26,710 --> 02:44:24,720
these ideas they come from something

3769
02:44:29,030 --> 02:44:26,720
before something before something before

3770
02:44:30,950 --> 02:44:29,040
something before and it goes all the way

3771
02:44:33,750 --> 02:44:30,960
back and in some cases thousands of

3772
02:44:35,990 --> 02:44:33,760
years with modern technology today and

3773
02:44:39,110 --> 02:44:36,000
i'm talking about textiles talking about

3774
02:44:40,309 --> 02:44:39,120
farming right yeah we didn't learn this

3775
02:44:42,389 --> 02:44:40,319
stuff today

3776
02:44:45,349 --> 02:44:42,399
and and yeah you didn't just wake up

3777
02:44:47,830 --> 02:44:45,359
exactly no and and and take a look go

3778
02:44:49,190 --> 02:44:47,840
back lee tappy simply wasn't supposed to

3779
02:44:50,070 --> 02:44:49,200
exist

3780
02:45:03,510 --> 02:44:50,080
and

3781
02:45:04,230 --> 02:45:03,520
calls madeleine but um

3782
02:45:06,150 --> 02:45:04,240
okay

3783
02:45:07,590 --> 02:45:06,160
i appreciate your time but but when

3784
02:45:09,510 --> 02:45:07,600
you're explanation

3785
02:45:11,510 --> 02:45:09,520
when i brought up go back lee teppy what

3786
02:45:12,710 --> 02:45:11,520
did georgios say he gave the right

3787
02:45:15,190 --> 02:45:12,720
answer

3788
02:45:19,110 --> 02:45:15,200
it's not just go beckley taffy it's what

3789
02:45:23,990 --> 02:45:21,590
and we are going to continue to find

3790
02:45:26,710 --> 02:45:24,000
more and these dates are going to

3791
02:45:30,070 --> 02:45:26,720
continue to push further back

3792
02:45:32,230 --> 02:45:30,080
and that's it and i'm excited about the

3793
02:45:34,389 --> 02:45:32,240
future and what is out there and we are

3794
02:45:37,990 --> 02:45:34,399
going to continue to find it just like

3795
02:45:39,990 --> 02:45:38,000
go back to tepe there's 11 more of them

3796
02:45:42,550 --> 02:45:40,000
there's 11 more and

3797
02:45:44,469 --> 02:45:42,560
that are in in in

3798
02:45:46,230 --> 02:45:44,479
encircled around

3799
02:45:47,750 --> 02:45:46,240
go back lee teppy

3800
02:45:50,150 --> 02:45:47,760
11

3801
02:45:52,710 --> 02:45:50,160
what are the dates of those what do they

3802
02:45:55,510 --> 02:45:52,720
represent what are we going to find

3803
02:45:58,150 --> 02:45:55,520
uh giorgio's point was an honest one we

3804
02:46:00,950 --> 02:45:58,160
need to gather the resources

3805
02:46:02,870 --> 02:46:00,960
and and the teams to go out there and

3806
02:46:05,670 --> 02:46:02,880
continue to discover these ancient

3807
02:46:08,630 --> 02:46:05,680
megalithic sites it's an exciting time

3808
02:46:10,950 --> 02:46:08,640
absolutely it is it really is all right

3809
02:46:13,030 --> 02:46:10,960
madeline give my best to brian

3810
02:46:16,389 --> 02:46:13,040
i will thank you he's listening he's at

3811
02:46:19,510 --> 02:46:16,399
work he's listening have a great night

3812
02:46:22,830 --> 02:46:19,520
all right thank you you too bye-bye bye

3813
02:46:26,469 --> 02:46:22,840
and uh that's a great phone call i mean

3814
02:46:29,590 --> 02:46:26,479
where i i keep going back to the same

3815
02:46:31,510 --> 02:46:29,600
it's it's the only way to look at it

3816
02:46:33,750 --> 02:46:31,520
when you are talking about angels and

3817
02:46:35,990 --> 02:46:33,760
voices and information and messengers

3818
02:46:39,429 --> 02:46:36,000
from the stars and from the heavens what

3819
02:46:40,550 --> 02:46:39,439
are what were the ancients really trying

3820
02:46:42,950 --> 02:46:40,560
to say

3821
02:46:45,030 --> 02:46:42,960
and it's not just in the bible

3822
02:46:46,950 --> 02:46:45,040
it's everywhere let's go back to the

3823
02:46:49,830 --> 02:46:46,960
phones hi you're live on fade to black

3824
02:46:58,150 --> 02:46:51,030
hi

3825
02:47:01,190 --> 02:46:58,160
i'm well how are you guys uh we're doing

3826
02:47:04,710 --> 02:47:01,200
good uh giorgio's not with us anymore

3827
02:47:07,349 --> 02:47:04,720
oh whoops okay that's okay he was uh

3828
02:47:09,750 --> 02:47:07,359
talking about delphi uh and that's when

3829
02:47:11,590 --> 02:47:09,760
i that's when i popped onto the phone

3830
02:47:13,190 --> 02:47:11,600
and i haven't listened since so then i

3831
02:47:15,429 --> 02:47:13,200
can't

3832
02:47:18,309 --> 02:47:15,439
back your boundary yeah that's fine

3833
02:47:21,750 --> 02:47:18,319
that's fine that's fine delphi is

3834
02:47:23,990 --> 02:47:21,760
you know what when uh uh we talk about

3835
02:47:27,269 --> 02:47:24,000
these different sites around the world

3836
02:47:29,910 --> 02:47:27,279
um delphi and the oracles and the

3837
02:47:31,830 --> 02:47:29,920
information and how that was done

3838
02:47:33,429 --> 02:47:31,840
one of the most interesting subjects out

3839
02:47:36,389 --> 02:47:33,439
there and

3840
02:47:39,110 --> 02:47:36,399
uh i remember um

3841
02:47:40,150 --> 02:47:39,120
some of the ideas behind it were

3842
02:47:42,950 --> 02:47:40,160
uh

3843
02:47:45,190 --> 02:47:42,960
hallucinogenic and toxic fumes you know

3844
02:47:48,150 --> 02:47:45,200
rising out of the ground and and they

3845
02:47:49,990 --> 02:47:48,160
were high and that's where some of the

3846
02:47:52,070 --> 02:47:50,000
okay all right it's

3847
02:47:54,070 --> 02:47:52,080
a possibility uh

3848
02:47:57,190 --> 02:47:54,080
i i don't know

3849
02:47:59,510 --> 02:47:57,200
but i just always found that uh delphi

3850
02:48:01,349 --> 02:47:59,520
and and the oracles and what went on up

3851
02:48:03,590 --> 02:48:01,359
there and how

3852
02:48:05,750 --> 02:48:03,600
decisions were made

3853
02:48:08,309 --> 02:48:05,760
for the cultures there based on what was

3854
02:48:10,230 --> 02:48:08,319
going on up at delphi just fascinating

3855
02:48:11,110 --> 02:48:10,240
to me

3856
02:48:14,070 --> 02:48:11,120
yes

3857
02:48:16,389 --> 02:48:14,080
really had a profound effect on the

3858
02:48:17,349 --> 02:48:16,399
lives of many people

3859
02:48:18,070 --> 02:48:17,359
and

3860
02:48:21,030 --> 02:48:18,080
i

3861
02:48:22,790 --> 02:48:21,040
that

3862
02:48:25,510 --> 02:48:22,800
i i had

3863
02:48:27,670 --> 02:48:25,520
really an awakening experience when i

3864
02:48:31,269 --> 02:48:27,680
watched

3865
02:48:34,469 --> 02:48:31,279
one of dw's wisdom teaching episodes

3866
02:48:37,110 --> 02:48:34,479
about about that topic and i

3867
02:48:39,429 --> 02:48:37,120
i just had a huge aha while i was

3868
02:48:43,190 --> 02:48:39,439
watching it and i was like that's that's

3869
02:48:45,750 --> 02:48:43,200
my life like all of the metaphors the

3870
02:48:48,230 --> 02:48:45,760
she who writes on the oak leaf

3871
02:48:50,469 --> 02:48:48,240
and um the experience that i've shared

3872
02:48:52,710 --> 02:48:50,479
on your show before about being remote

3873
02:48:56,550 --> 02:48:52,720
controlled when i was

3874
02:48:59,269 --> 02:48:56,560
four years old on top of mount vesuvius

3875
02:49:01,990 --> 02:48:59,279
that's that's what that experience was

3876
02:49:03,190 --> 02:49:02,000
in my opinion i'm i'm 50 years old now

3877
02:49:05,910 --> 02:49:03,200
and i've

3878
02:49:07,349 --> 02:49:05,920
had some time to get used to some ideas

3879
02:49:09,110 --> 02:49:07,359
in the last

3880
02:49:11,110 --> 02:49:09,120
few years

3881
02:49:13,110 --> 02:49:11,120
and uh

3882
02:49:16,870 --> 02:49:13,120
the voices that come through me the

3883
02:49:18,550 --> 02:49:16,880
things that i see i have ce5 going on

3884
02:49:19,830 --> 02:49:18,560
all day long

3885
02:49:22,070 --> 02:49:19,840
and the

3886
02:49:24,630 --> 02:49:22,080
the voices you know

3887
02:49:27,269 --> 02:49:24,640
when you spend time in their presence

3888
02:49:28,230 --> 02:49:27,279
you experience things and you start to

3889
02:49:30,870 --> 02:49:28,240
realize

3890
02:49:33,910 --> 02:49:30,880
what's what's going on around you is

3891
02:49:35,830 --> 02:49:33,920
maybe not what we've been told

3892
02:49:38,230 --> 02:49:35,840
yeah i couldn't agree with you more i

3893
02:49:41,110 --> 02:49:38,240
couldn't agree with you more i haven't

3894
02:49:43,269 --> 02:49:41,120
i haven't had it yet i

3895
02:49:44,469 --> 02:49:43,279
i haven't experienced

3896
02:49:46,230 --> 02:49:44,479
uh

3897
02:49:49,190 --> 02:49:46,240
whether we call a channeling or a

3898
02:49:52,230 --> 02:49:49,200
communication or a download maybe i

3899
02:49:53,190 --> 02:49:52,240
haven't i didn't know it but um but too

3900
02:49:56,550 --> 02:49:53,200
many

3901
02:49:58,950 --> 02:49:56,560
do uh uh have these abilities

3902
02:50:01,429 --> 02:49:58,960
and i i think we just need to take a

3903
02:50:04,630 --> 02:50:01,439
closer look at ignore yeah yeah yeah i

3904
02:50:09,110 --> 02:50:04,640
agree with you rhea in general

3905
02:50:13,910 --> 02:50:11,910
i was hoping you know to talk about that

3906
02:50:15,429 --> 02:50:13,920
very thing because i really i really

3907
02:50:18,070 --> 02:50:15,439
mean it

3908
02:50:19,830 --> 02:50:18,080
when i tell you i experienced delphi

3909
02:50:21,030 --> 02:50:19,840
comes through me

3910
02:50:23,110 --> 02:50:21,040
and

3911
02:50:25,190 --> 02:50:23,120
i've been poking my nose around here

3912
02:50:26,790 --> 02:50:25,200
here and there and i went away for a

3913
02:50:30,070 --> 02:50:26,800
little bit

3914
02:50:32,309 --> 02:50:30,080
and um i i would love to have a broader

3915
02:50:34,550 --> 02:50:32,319
deeper conversation because

3916
02:50:36,710 --> 02:50:34,560
you know there's things like um the

3917
02:50:39,510 --> 02:50:36,720
painting of the crucifixion of christ of

3918
02:50:40,389 --> 02:50:39,520
1350

3919
02:50:45,830 --> 02:50:40,399
and

3920
02:50:49,269 --> 02:50:45,840
see it's got these weird little like

3921
02:50:51,190 --> 02:50:49,279
spheres with kind of like stars kind of

3922
02:50:53,190 --> 02:50:51,200
around them like maybe they're shooting

3923
02:50:54,710 --> 02:50:53,200
stars or something

3924
02:50:57,670 --> 02:50:54,720
and then there's all these other

3925
02:50:58,630 --> 02:50:57,680
paintings that were around like

3926
02:51:07,110 --> 02:50:58,640
the

3927
02:51:10,389 --> 02:51:07,120
and it was like this subversive culture

3928
02:51:12,870 --> 02:51:10,399
and i see those every day and now i know

3929
02:51:14,790 --> 02:51:12,880
what that is i have personal one-on-one

3930
02:51:16,710 --> 02:51:14,800
experience and i can

3931
02:51:18,790 --> 02:51:16,720
i'm really hoping to

3932
02:51:21,030 --> 02:51:18,800
you know just really show that to you

3933
02:51:24,389 --> 02:51:21,040
and explain that to you and

3934
02:51:26,309 --> 02:51:24,399
and i struggle with uh ptsd and when i

3935
02:51:27,349 --> 02:51:26,319
talk great i'm great and when i don't i

3936
02:51:30,150 --> 02:51:27,359
don't

3937
02:51:31,670 --> 02:51:30,160
right but um yeah i just want to reach

3938
02:51:33,030 --> 02:51:31,680
out to you and say

3939
02:51:35,750 --> 02:51:33,040
i would love

3940
02:51:37,670 --> 02:51:35,760
to talk like more in depth about these

3941
02:51:40,230 --> 02:51:37,680
things because i feel really quite

3942
02:51:42,630 --> 02:51:40,240
certain that that delphi is speaking to

3943
02:51:43,990 --> 02:51:42,640
me and i'm not saying that to be uh

3944
02:51:46,070 --> 02:51:44,000
hubristic

3945
02:51:48,309 --> 02:51:46,080
i'm saying that because it's time tested

3946
02:51:51,269 --> 02:51:48,319
now it's been a few years and i was

3947
02:51:53,190 --> 02:51:51,279
calling in because george i met him uh

3948
02:51:58,389 --> 02:51:53,200
at uh

3949
02:52:00,710 --> 02:51:58,399
uh citb 2019 and um i was too i just

3950
02:52:02,469 --> 02:52:00,720
was really too shy and trying to come

3951
02:52:05,990 --> 02:52:02,479
out of my shell to tell everybody what

3952
02:52:09,110 --> 02:52:06,000
was going on because it sounded crazy

3953
02:52:11,510 --> 02:52:09,120
to have somebody say to me okay you're

3954
02:52:13,510 --> 02:52:11,520
you're in the running for being one of

3955
02:52:16,389 --> 02:52:13,520
delphi's

3956
02:52:18,150 --> 02:52:16,399
mouthpieces for the world

3957
02:52:20,870 --> 02:52:18,160
yeah and that sounds like a very you

3958
02:52:23,349 --> 02:52:20,880
know egotistical thing right right right

3959
02:52:26,309 --> 02:52:23,359
right right right no i totally get it i

3960
02:52:28,710 --> 02:52:26,319
do i totally get it well uh thursday

3961
02:52:30,389 --> 02:52:28,720
night tomorrow night uh give us a call

3962
02:52:31,349 --> 02:52:30,399
and we'll have a deeper conversation

3963
02:52:32,870 --> 02:52:31,359
okay

3964
02:52:34,469 --> 02:52:32,880
have a great sounds like fun have a

3965
02:52:36,710 --> 02:52:34,479
great night

3966
02:52:37,830 --> 02:52:36,720
thank you so much and

3967
02:52:38,630 --> 02:52:37,840
uh

3968
02:52:40,469 --> 02:52:38,640
the

3969
02:52:42,389 --> 02:52:40,479
uh how do i

3970
02:52:45,510 --> 02:52:42,399
when uh

3971
02:52:49,349 --> 02:52:45,520
i i i am so fascinated

3972
02:52:50,230 --> 02:52:49,359
with channeling i i'm just so fascinated

3973
02:52:52,550 --> 02:52:50,240
with it

3974
02:52:54,950 --> 02:52:52,560
and until

3975
02:52:58,950 --> 02:52:54,960
um it's one thing to

3976
02:53:01,269 --> 02:52:58,960
uh see somebody channel or hear it and

3977
02:53:04,070 --> 02:53:01,279
things but when you experience it in

3978
02:53:05,750 --> 02:53:04,080
person and you see it go down

3979
02:53:10,790 --> 02:53:05,760
i i

3980
02:53:12,550 --> 02:53:10,800
go back to

3981
02:53:14,630 --> 02:53:12,560
uh darylanka

3982
02:53:17,830 --> 02:53:14,640
and uh bashar

3983
02:53:19,030 --> 02:53:17,840
and and i've seen

3984
02:53:20,469 --> 02:53:19,040
uh

3985
02:53:24,469 --> 02:53:20,479
you know i've been right there with

3986
02:53:26,550 --> 02:53:24,479
daryl right there him and i alone

3987
02:53:28,230 --> 02:53:26,560
and then a couple of seconds later i'll

3988
02:53:30,309 --> 02:53:28,240
walk out on stage i'll introduce him and

3989
02:53:33,110 --> 02:53:30,319
then he comes out and i'm instead and

3990
02:53:34,870 --> 02:53:33,120
i'll watch him

3991
02:53:37,030 --> 02:53:34,880
go into this

3992
02:53:38,389 --> 02:53:37,040
and then hear

3993
02:53:44,550 --> 02:53:38,399
the

3994
02:53:45,910 --> 02:53:44,560
i can't put my finger on it i don't know

3995
02:53:47,910 --> 02:53:45,920
how it's done

3996
02:53:50,550 --> 02:53:47,920
i i don't

3997
02:53:52,230 --> 02:53:50,560
uh but there is something happening

3998
02:53:53,990 --> 02:53:52,240
there is and i don't know i keep i

3999
02:53:56,230 --> 02:53:54,000
always go back to entanglement maybe

4000
02:53:58,389 --> 02:53:56,240
it's entanglement maybe there's just

4001
02:54:00,710 --> 02:53:58,399
some direct thing that we don't quite

4002
02:54:03,030 --> 02:54:00,720
understand just yet

4003
02:54:03,750 --> 02:54:03,040
but there's got to be an explanation for

4004
02:54:05,110 --> 02:54:03,760
it

4005
02:54:06,389 --> 02:54:05,120
there has to be let's go back to the

4006
02:54:08,309 --> 02:54:06,399
phones how you're live on fade to black

4007
02:54:12,309 --> 02:54:08,319
who's calling

4008
02:54:14,150 --> 02:54:12,319
hi it's jackie on orcas island hi jackie

4009
02:54:17,510 --> 02:54:14,160
how are you hi

4010
02:54:20,950 --> 02:54:17,520
hi i'm good you know

4011
02:54:23,349 --> 02:54:20,960
what an incredible surprise now i have

4012
02:54:24,550 --> 02:54:23,359
two of my favorite

4013
02:54:26,870 --> 02:54:24,560
guys

4014
02:54:30,309 --> 02:54:26,880
on on the phone

4015
02:54:33,110 --> 02:54:30,319
hi jackie what george

4016
02:54:34,389 --> 02:54:33,120
georgio's not with us anymore jackie

4017
02:54:37,830 --> 02:54:34,399
it's just

4018
02:54:38,870 --> 02:54:37,840
yes he did he did he did he did he left

4019
02:54:40,469 --> 02:54:38,880
oh

4020
02:54:42,710 --> 02:54:40,479
okay well then

4021
02:54:44,950 --> 02:54:42,720
i'm just gonna call back tomorrow night

4022
02:54:47,990 --> 02:54:44,960
when it's later night but

4023
02:54:52,230 --> 02:54:50,070
it's pretty amazing

4024
02:54:54,469 --> 02:54:52,240
anyway yeah we'll talk later then we'll

4025
02:54:56,469 --> 02:54:54,479
get on with somebody else

4026
02:54:58,870 --> 02:54:56,479
for you

4027
02:55:00,389 --> 02:54:58,880
hey jackie how was that pizza the other

4028
02:55:03,269 --> 02:55:00,399
night

4029
02:55:05,349 --> 02:55:03,279
it was really good lots of onions lots

4030
02:55:08,630 --> 02:55:05,359
of mushrooms

4031
02:55:11,269 --> 02:55:08,640
yeah he did he always comes up with a a

4032
02:55:13,590 --> 02:55:11,279
good one he did a good job you know with

4033
02:55:15,190 --> 02:55:13,600
me i'm just gonna go on the record right

4034
02:55:16,389 --> 02:55:15,200
now

4035
02:55:19,349 --> 02:55:16,399
pepperoni

4036
02:55:21,590 --> 02:55:19,359
mushroom onion that's a pizza

4037
02:55:23,590 --> 02:55:21,600
pepperoni mushroom onion and i'm i'm

4038
02:55:26,710 --> 02:55:23,600
good i'm good

4039
02:55:29,269 --> 02:55:26,720
yeah i think pepperoni is kind of greasy

4040
02:55:31,349 --> 02:55:29,279
i'm i'm not a real big meat-eater anyway

4041
02:55:33,110 --> 02:55:31,359
so i don't if they're not there that's

4042
02:55:36,710 --> 02:55:33,120
fine with me

4043
02:55:38,710 --> 02:55:36,720
we looked up versailles i'm so intrigued

4044
02:55:41,590 --> 02:55:38,720
oh i've never heard of it

4045
02:55:43,670 --> 02:55:41,600
you you wait it's it's worth the drive

4046
02:55:46,070 --> 02:55:43,680
that's worth the trip that's worth a

4047
02:55:48,550 --> 02:55:46,080
trip to l.a jackie i'll see you tomorrow

4048
02:55:53,670 --> 02:55:48,560
night on the show behave and be well

4049
02:55:58,870 --> 02:55:56,710
jackie is just absolutely amazing she's

4050
02:56:00,710 --> 02:55:58,880
absolutely amazing she called in the

4051
02:56:02,230 --> 02:56:00,720
other night and uh they were they were

4052
02:56:05,349 --> 02:56:02,240
making a pizza

4053
02:56:07,429 --> 02:56:05,359
and uh dressing it up and uh there you

4054
02:56:09,110 --> 02:56:07,439
go hi you're live on fade to black who's

4055
02:56:10,389 --> 02:56:09,120
calling

4056
02:56:12,870 --> 02:56:10,399
hey

4057
02:56:14,790 --> 02:56:12,880
vader lord how you doing i'm doing good

4058
02:56:17,590 --> 02:56:14,800
how are you

4059
02:56:20,230 --> 02:56:17,600
oh pretty good uh i was looking at a

4060
02:56:22,550 --> 02:56:20,240
bass guitar i know you have guitars but

4061
02:56:24,070 --> 02:56:22,560
this bass guitar was just awesome it was

4062
02:56:26,150 --> 02:56:24,080
400 bucks

4063
02:56:30,710 --> 02:56:26,160
and i'm saving for it so i'm gonna get

4064
02:56:32,870 --> 02:56:30,720
one oh right on uh what kind is it

4065
02:56:35,510 --> 02:56:32,880
um i didn't have a name on it but it was

4066
02:56:37,429 --> 02:56:35,520
just all shiny and like brand new lights

4067
02:56:41,349 --> 02:56:37,439
okay it was in the old

4068
02:56:42,950 --> 02:56:41,359
record store so um it's pretty cool it's

4069
02:56:44,790 --> 02:56:42,960
in santa barbara

4070
02:56:46,790 --> 02:56:44,800
take a picture of it post it i'll tell

4071
02:56:49,269 --> 02:56:46,800
you what it is

4072
02:56:52,550 --> 02:56:49,279
so yeah yeah what'd you think of uh uh

4073
02:56:56,710 --> 02:56:52,560
the conversation with giorgio tonight

4074
02:56:59,110 --> 02:56:56,720
it was uh but it was just um

4075
02:57:01,429 --> 02:56:59,120
i i i don't have words to express it

4076
02:57:04,150 --> 02:57:01,439
right now i mean it's

4077
02:57:05,750 --> 02:57:04,160
it's really really different foreign to

4078
02:57:08,950 --> 02:57:05,760
me because of

4079
02:57:11,670 --> 02:57:08,960
the alien agenda and all that this goes

4080
02:57:13,670 --> 02:57:11,680
way back when

4081
02:57:16,950 --> 02:57:13,680
well uh well even back

4082
02:57:19,110 --> 02:57:16,960
even back through the art bill days

4083
02:57:21,190 --> 02:57:19,120
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and i and i'm

4084
02:57:23,590 --> 02:57:21,200
with you on that vader to see

4085
02:57:27,429 --> 02:57:23,600
the the whole thing

4086
02:57:31,190 --> 02:57:27,439
uh for me when when uh

4087
02:57:34,830 --> 02:57:31,200
you know the subject of giorgio comes up

4088
02:57:41,110 --> 02:57:38,630
explorer side of him he's an explorer

4089
02:57:43,750 --> 02:57:41,120
uh he's into ancient history

4090
02:57:44,950 --> 02:57:43,760
certainly explores the religious aspects

4091
02:57:47,429 --> 02:57:44,960
of it

4092
02:57:49,590 --> 02:57:47,439
i think that in his uh in his personal

4093
02:57:53,830 --> 02:57:49,600
life outside of ancient aliens

4094
02:57:54,950 --> 02:57:53,840
um he has uh gone through his own life's

4095
02:57:57,030 --> 02:57:54,960
journey

4096
02:57:58,550 --> 02:57:57,040
um which i've always found very

4097
02:57:59,910 --> 02:57:58,560
interesting don't talk about it on the

4098
02:58:01,750 --> 02:57:59,920
show but i've always found that very

4099
02:58:04,790 --> 02:58:01,760
interesting i'm talking about uh the

4100
02:58:05,830 --> 02:58:04,800
spiritual side of things uh for him

4101
02:58:06,630 --> 02:58:05,840
and

4102
02:58:09,429 --> 02:58:06,640
the

4103
02:58:11,190 --> 02:58:09,439
i brought this up earlier tonight

4104
02:58:13,190 --> 02:58:11,200
he literally looked at me in the eyes

4105
02:58:15,030 --> 02:58:13,200
and goes jimmy i'm not i'm i don't know

4106
02:58:18,950 --> 02:58:15,040
anything about ufos

4107
02:58:20,309 --> 02:58:18,960
it's not what i do i'm into uh history

4108
02:58:23,429 --> 02:58:20,319
and

4109
02:58:25,510 --> 02:58:23,439
he has

4110
02:58:26,950 --> 02:58:25,520
now

4111
02:58:29,830 --> 02:58:26,960
been uh

4112
02:58:31,510 --> 02:58:29,840
his his journey his hero's journey is

4113
02:58:33,750 --> 02:58:31,520
taking him down

4114
02:58:35,910 --> 02:58:33,760
this path and one of the reasons for

4115
02:58:37,990 --> 02:58:35,920
that is popular culture what is going on

4116
02:58:39,590 --> 02:58:38,000
in the media what is going on with

4117
02:58:41,030 --> 02:58:39,600
research and of course the department of

4118
02:58:44,389 --> 02:58:41,040
the defense and the military louis

4119
02:58:47,590 --> 02:58:44,399
lozano and chris mellon and and uh

4120
02:58:50,550 --> 02:58:47,600
the senate and and the navy

4121
02:58:53,269 --> 02:58:50,560
and pilots and witnesses well

4122
02:58:55,269 --> 02:58:53,279
with what he does and um not only with

4123
02:58:57,030 --> 02:58:55,279
ancient aliens but the people that are

4124
02:58:59,910 --> 02:58:57,040
around him the other producers and

4125
02:59:02,870 --> 02:58:59,920
contributors to the show are all going

4126
02:59:05,910 --> 02:59:02,880
down this same research path

4127
02:59:06,870 --> 02:59:05,920
and so because of that and this is where

4128
02:59:09,750 --> 02:59:06,880
um

4129
02:59:11,429 --> 02:59:09,760
my respect for him is is so high is that

4130
02:59:15,590 --> 02:59:11,439
you have to go

4131
02:59:17,750 --> 02:59:15,600
where things take you and so now

4132
02:59:21,190 --> 02:59:17,760
uh he has spent a great amount of time

4133
02:59:22,790 --> 02:59:21,200
looking into history into cases into

4134
02:59:24,630 --> 02:59:22,800
uh other things that have happened in

4135
02:59:28,389 --> 02:59:24,640
the past in a modern sense

4136
02:59:32,070 --> 02:59:28,399
and and what ufology is

4137
02:59:35,429 --> 02:59:32,080
and and those that have researched uh

4138
02:59:38,870 --> 02:59:35,439
the et hypothesis and where we are today

4139
02:59:41,750 --> 02:59:38,880
and and now he is

4140
02:59:43,110 --> 02:59:41,760
is how do i say this he's knee-deep he's

4141
02:59:45,910 --> 02:59:43,120
entrenched

4142
02:59:47,429 --> 02:59:45,920
in the subject and he's curious and he

4143
02:59:49,510 --> 02:59:47,439
wants to know and he wants to get these

4144
02:59:52,550 --> 02:59:49,520
answers and that's that's one of the

4145
02:59:54,070 --> 02:59:52,560
great things about somebody that

4146
02:59:57,110 --> 02:59:54,080
like giorgio

4147
02:59:59,190 --> 02:59:57,120
that chooses to keep their mind open

4148
03:00:02,389 --> 02:59:59,200
their ears open

4149
03:00:04,230 --> 03:00:02,399
and they want to learn

4150
03:00:07,910 --> 03:00:04,240
they wonder

4151
03:00:10,630 --> 03:00:07,920
right wonder and and and are curious

4152
03:00:12,389 --> 03:00:10,640
that's what separates those out there

4153
03:00:14,070 --> 03:00:12,399
that have a closed mind don't want to

4154
03:00:16,710 --> 03:00:14,080
listen don't want to learn don't want to

4155
03:00:19,670 --> 03:00:16,720
expand and those that do

4156
03:00:21,349 --> 03:00:19,680
you want the only way to move forward to

4157
03:00:24,230 --> 03:00:21,359
progress

4158
03:00:27,590 --> 03:00:24,240
is to learn and to learn from others and

4159
03:00:29,910 --> 03:00:27,600
that's how you move forward that's

4160
03:00:31,030 --> 03:00:29,920
what's so great about giorgio and also

4161
03:00:34,710 --> 03:00:31,040
to see

4162
03:00:36,870 --> 03:00:34,720
uh ancient aliens progress and and how

4163
03:00:40,550 --> 03:00:36,880
how they have found themselves in the

4164
03:00:43,349 --> 03:00:40,560
middle of uh season 18 exploring now and

4165
03:00:45,349 --> 03:00:43,359
in the past vader enjoy the rest of your

4166
03:00:48,469 --> 03:00:45,359
night thank you for the phone call

4167
03:00:50,230 --> 03:00:48,479
and and uh with that uh i've got to get

4168
03:00:52,469 --> 03:00:50,240
out of here

4169
03:00:56,550 --> 03:00:52,479
another great night but tomorrow night

4170
03:00:59,670 --> 03:00:56,560
is fader night with open lines all night

4171
03:01:01,910 --> 03:00:59,680
long all right now also i want to remind

4172
03:01:04,469 --> 03:01:01,920
everybody tomorrow night i am going to

4173
03:01:06,790 --> 03:01:04,479
be giving away uh some tickets

4174
03:01:09,830 --> 03:01:06,800
to the conscious life expo i'm going to

4175
03:01:11,190 --> 03:01:09,840
be giving away pairs of tickets so we're

4176
03:01:12,870 --> 03:01:11,200
going to be doing that tomorrow night if

4177
03:01:14,389 --> 03:01:12,880
you're in the los angeles area if you

4178
03:01:16,710 --> 03:01:14,399
can make it out to the conscious life

4179
03:01:18,550 --> 03:01:16,720
expo february 4th

4180
03:01:21,429 --> 03:01:18,560
to the 7th which is

4181
03:01:23,429 --> 03:01:21,439
it's coming up in a week

4182
03:01:26,070 --> 03:01:23,439
that's right today's wednesday next

4183
03:01:29,990 --> 03:01:26,080
thursday a week from tomorrow i will be

4184
03:01:31,670 --> 03:01:30,000
at the lax hilton thursday night

4185
03:01:33,030 --> 03:01:31,680
all right so all of that is going down

4186
03:01:35,269 --> 03:01:33,040
tomorrow night fade to black is produced

4187
03:01:37,110 --> 03:01:35,279
by hill j palm rene dennis and kevin

4188
03:01:39,750 --> 03:01:37,120
announces our steve harder gene vettel

4189
03:01:43,070 --> 03:01:39,760
mark t kobar webmasters drew the key

4190
03:01:44,870 --> 03:01:43,080
music doug aldridge intro spaceboy

4191
03:01:46,710 --> 03:01:44,880
spaceboymusic.com faded black is

4192
03:01:48,389 --> 03:01:46,720
produced by kjcr for the game changer

4193
03:01:50,550 --> 03:01:48,399
network and this broadcast owned a

4194
03:01:52,550 --> 03:01:50,560
copyrighted 2022 by fade to black and

4195
03:01:54,389 --> 03:01:52,560
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4196
03:01:56,070 --> 03:01:54,399
be re-broadcast downloaded copied or

4197
03:01:57,670 --> 03:01:56,080
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4198
03:01:59,190 --> 03:01:57,680
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4199
03:02:00,870 --> 03:01:59,200
black in the game change your network

4200
03:02:02,630 --> 03:02:00,880
i'm yours jimmy church i'm going to take

4201
03:02:05,670 --> 03:02:02,640
a little break

4202
03:02:10,550 --> 03:02:05,680
and in about an hour i'm gonna be

4203
03:02:13,110 --> 03:02:10,560
the guest of frank murano over at wabc

4204
03:02:14,870 --> 03:02:13,120
top radio in new york city

4205
03:02:16,870 --> 03:02:14,880
i posted up everything for that so i'll

4206
03:02:19,269 --> 03:02:16,880
see everybody over there

4207
03:02:22,790 --> 03:02:19,279
in about 90 minutes i'm your host jimmy

4208
03:02:32,320 --> 03:02:22,800
church i want everybody to be safe